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mccann Sat Jul 30, 2005 03:01pm

i was iterested on the topic of jewelry. But what is the ruling on the wrist bands that the youth are wearing, that Lance Armstrong was selling. Are they consdered dangerous.

U_of_I_Blue Sat Jul 30, 2005 05:19pm

Most I have talked to (myself included) feel these should be treated just as a normal bracelet or necklace would be, considered to be jewelry. I've not allowed them in my games and I know many others who have not as well. IMO, they're jewelry.

ASA/NYSSOBLUE Sat Jul 30, 2005 05:19pm

We here pretty much decided to make the girls take them off-it was never told to us officially,but I think most of us decided it had the POTENTIAL of being injurous....by the middle of the school season they were all coming off before we had a chance to ask/tell them...

JEL Sat Jul 30, 2005 06:43pm

Why is a rubber hair band safe around a ponytail, yet dangerous around the wrist?

It is easier to be consistent by saying as one of our guys does "If they weren't born with it on, it's jewelry and has gotta go"!

ASA/NYSSOBLUE Sat Jul 30, 2005 08:56pm

Quote:

Originally posted by JEL
Why is a rubber hair band safe around a ponytail, yet dangerous around the wrist?

It is easier to be consistent by saying as one of our guys does "If they weren't born with it on, it's jewelry and has gotta go"!


Because of the likelyhood that the wrist will take a DIRECT hit....

U_of_I_Blue Sat Jul 30, 2005 09:34pm

Agreed ASA/NYS. Something else I have thought of before is that a rubber band around the hair (to make it a pony tail) must be tight. Tough to get a finger or something in underneath it. 9 times out of 10, if it (or one of these bracelets) is on the wrist, it's not flush to the skin so there is the chance a finger could become lodged underneath of it (I know, highly unlikely but the chance does exist)and dislocated or broken as the play develops.

My personal view on it, is what purpose does it serve? The rubber band in the hair is serving a purpose, keeping the hair out of their faces. A rubber band on the wrist (or one of these bracelets), serves no purpose, therefore, there's no reason for them to have it on. JMO.

emaxos Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:46pm

I have the same thought everytime this topic comes around for discussion.
How can something be judged as potentially dangerous at or below the high school level and then suddenly be of no concern at the college level??
I noticed one pitcher in the WCWS that, from the neck up, looked like she just returned from a prom.
I can see bans on hoop earrings, etc. at all levels but have never quite grasped the need for a total ban.
Aren't college officials subject to the same liability issues as others? Perhaps less paranoid??

AtlUmpSteve Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:52pm

NCAA players are considered adults who are responsible for themselves; they are no longer minors. Additionally, by rule, the coach and the school accept all liability for players wearing jewelry.

Umpires have no reason to be concerned; not our problem.

Tex Sun Jul 31, 2005 09:59am

Instead of wrist bands, how about the girls who wear sweat bands on their wrist. These serve a purpose. I have been told at ASA National School that if the wrist object is hard (hard plastic, metal, etc.), that is considered jewerly and is to be removed. If the object is soft to let it go unless worn by pitcher, then you have other rules for removal.

whiskers_ump Sun Jul 31, 2005 06:07pm

Throw out the rubber wrist bands if you want, but in the AFA Nationals it is a signal to
the college coaches in attendance that the young lady wearing the band is an unsigned
eligible player. AFA follows NCAA in the jewerly department, if not considered
dangerous, let it alone. Did my 9th AFA Nationals this plast week and have never had
to tell a player to remove a piece of jewerly. Nothing remotely dangerous looking.



SRW Sun Jul 31, 2005 09:09pm

MLB
 
Interesting photo here regarding wristbands...

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg....AvZ7tTe1QYkw--
Los Angeles Angels batter Garret Anderson (R) and home plate umpire Paul Nauert (L) watch his two-run home run off New York Yankees pitcher Mike Mussina in the second inning of their game in New York's Yankee Stadium July 29, 2005. The hit proved to be all that was needed as the Angels won 4-1. Photo by Ray Stubblebine/Reuters

whiskers_ump Mon Aug 01, 2005 05:00am

The wrist band the umpire is wearing appears to be one of the "SUPPORT OUR TROOPS" type.
I wear one of them, but not during a game.


JEL Mon Aug 01, 2005 08:54am

No glen,

He's wearing that one so he will know which hand to watch when calling a STRIKE!

HM1 Hammonds Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:50pm

Keepin' It Simple
 
If a rubber band is on the wrist, it is jewelry. Rubber band in the hair to contain the hair is not jewelry.
Keeps it simple, huh?

IRISHMAFIA Thu Aug 04, 2005 06:26am

Re: Keepin' It Simple
 
Quote:

Originally posted by HM1 Hammonds
If a rubber band is on the wrist, it is jewelry. Rubber band in the hair to contain the hair is not jewelry.
Keeps it simple, huh?

And what makes a rubber band (gum band, to some) on the wrist "dangerous"?


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