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Just Curious Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:32pm

This scenario happened in my game yesterday..
BR hits a dribbler to F5.. F5 throws to F3 for a close call at 1B... F3 is straddling the white bag with one of her feet on the orange bag too..
F3 has the ball before the BR gets there, but the BR collides with F3. BU calls the out, but base coach wants an obstruction call for being on both bases..
The out call held as the BU cited incidental contact..
I personally saw it as obstruction since F3 cover both the white & orange bases.. I believe that I, as the PU, had a better view of what F3 was doing..
My question is: Could the base coach have requested my input (PU) on the call? I suspect that the BU could have said no, that it was his (BU) call. But if the BU wanted to honor the base coach's request, how would this request be properly conducted?

bluezebra Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:47pm

Could the base coach have requested my input (PU) on the call?

**Sure. The coach may request anything. But you may not give her/him your input.

I suspect that the BU could have said no, that it was his (BU) call. But if the BU wanted to honor the base coach's request, how would this request be properly conducted?

**"Excuse me blue (BU). I believe F3 is guilty of obstruction. Would you please check with your partner."

"Of course, coach". "Partner, I have an out at 1B. The ball beat the BR, so there is no obstruction. Do you want to meet for coffee after the game?". "Coach, there's no obstruction since the ball beat your BR".

Bob


wadeintothem Sun Apr 24, 2005 01:08pm

"nice try coach"

IRISHMAFIA Sun Apr 24, 2005 05:15pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Just Curious
This scenario happened in my game yesterday..
BR hits a dribbler to F5.. F5 throws to F3 for a close call at 1B... F3 is straddling the white bag with one of her feet on the orange bag too..
F3 has the ball before the BR gets there, but the BR collides with F3. BU calls the out, but base coach wants an obstruction call for being on both bases..
The out call held as the BU cited incidental contact..
I personally saw it as obstruction since F3 cover both the white & orange bases.. I believe that I, as the PU, had a better view of what F3 was doing..
My question is: Could the base coach have requested my input (PU) on the call? I suspect that the BU could have said no, that it was his (BU) call. But if the BU wanted to honor the base coach's request, how would this request be properly conducted?

The call is out, if there was a collision, obviously the runner wasn't impeded and F3 had possession of the ball.

Where is the obstruction?

streamdoc Wed Apr 27, 2005 03:05pm

Just a thought from another recent post with a similar situation. If the runner had one foot on the 2nd base side of the white bag, and one foot on the orange bag (not touching the white bag), it's possible that the runner got in there safely. Assuming that the collision occured once the BR had touched first, s/he would be safe. Correct?

debeau Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:05pm

Possible ? Its true .
The BR must be tagged before touching the base or the fielder must have her foot on the fair portion with the ball in her hand or glove before the BR touches the safety base .

Dakota Sat Apr 30, 2005 02:15pm

Broken record time...
 
Blocking the base is not obstruction.

Impeding the runner without the ball is obstruction.

Did you see the runner impeded before the ball arrived, or did you merely see the fielder with one foot on the orange base?


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