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Old Fri Apr 15, 2005, 12:09pm
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SP with a 1 man crew. R1 and R2, ground ball to 3B and he goes for a tag. R2 jukes 3B (without leaving basepath) and gets to the base. Even though I was moving from behind the plate, this is a tough one to see.

I couldn't see the tag, base coach applauds and 3B gets a dejected look on his face, so I called safe. Later both R2 and 3B said I got it right but it really got me thinking about what I can do for next time. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old Fri Apr 15, 2005, 12:36pm
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Just call what you see. If you dont see the out, its safe. Hustle and get the best angle possible.

I wouldnt spend too much time looking at coaches reactions. I know I blatantly lie with body language especially on close plays when I'm coaching.. but probably very very few coaches, if any besides me, do that...

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Old Fri Apr 15, 2005, 12:42pm
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I wouldn't use coaches reactions either... but when you're working 1-man, you can occasionally take cues from player reactions. (OCCASIONALLY). (Coaches will often yell "Good job, good job!" whether the kid got around the tag or not, or was safe at first or not, etc).

Like in the play you mention, if the runner kept running hard and the fielder looked dejected (or fielder made a second jab behind him at a tag), you probably have a safe call - absent actual sight of a tag on your part.

But if the runner slowed down after the Tag/Near-Tag as if to give up and/or the fielder immediately started looking for another play, you probably have a tag.

Working 1-man is tough. Use ALL of your information.
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Old Fri Apr 15, 2005, 12:50pm
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It even works better cuz the umps know I'm an ump.. they are working solo in a 14U rec league (my DD's team) I'm usually at 1B box.. so they think "gosh hes got a great angle on it and is an ump" - yeah well its my DD's team. I've drawn more than a few calls this way over the years. Umps, Make your call but she safe as far as the coaches are concerned.

Another funny thing.. watching the pitcher pitch I'm like "aw man that was a strike" .. from behind me a very good HS Pitcher says "What! You dont call that a strike when I'm pitching" - I tell her well it depends on if I'm coaching or umping if thats a strike.. well had to be there I guess.

Anyway, the point is coaches are biased and interested in getting things (especially close judgement calls) in favor of their team.. not necessarily getting the call 100% correct.

At a minimum, I know hands arent part of the bat.. but I will try to get a call in my favor.
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Old Sat Apr 16, 2005, 08:40am
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Lesson Learned from an AD

During Basketball season I am at a local holiday tourney. Host school AD recoginizes me and wants to talk about officiating. So we have this level headed talk, philsophys(sp) exchanged-I am feeling the love from the AD. Tip off- Ball in the air- and it is like i sat next to the worst of the worst fans. I mean loudly screaming at the officials, how they are robbing the home team . It was hysterical. Needless to say I moved before one minute was off the clock.
People are biased and that is human nature.
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Old Sat Apr 16, 2005, 10:44am
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It even works better cuz the umps know I'm an ump.. they are working solo in a 14U rec league (my DD's team) I'm usually at 1B box.. so they think "gosh hes got a great angle on it and is an ump" - yeah well its my DD's team. I've drawn more than a few calls this way over the years. Umps, Make your call but she safe as far as the coaches are concerned.

Another funny thing.. watching the pitcher pitch I'm like "aw man that was a strike" .. from behind me a very good HS Pitcher says "What! You dont call that a strike when I'm pitching" - I tell her well it depends on if I'm coaching or umping if thats a strike.. well had to be there I guess.

Anyway, the point is coaches are biased and interested in getting things (especially close judgement calls) in favor of their team.. not necessarily getting the call 100% correct.

At a minimum, I know hands arent part of the bat.. but I will try to get a call in my favor.
As long as you realize that what goes around, comes around. IOW, you are more likely to get a warning or ejection quicker than the next guy, because you should know better.
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