Section 4 Questions

[rwest]

Rule 4-4-A-3 Says that if an EP is discovered while the illegal player is on base and a pitch has been thrown to the next batter, remove the illegal player from the base, or if the player has scored, remove the run, and the remove the player from the game.

Question: No where does it say that this is an out. It is an out if discovered while on base and before a pitch to the next batter (Rule 4-4-A-2). Is this just an oversight? Should there be an out in this situation?

Rule 4-6-E Effect 1-d says if the player is in the game illegally as a runner and it is brought to the attention of the umpire before the next legal or illegal pitch has been thrown or a play made, this is a correctable situation.

Question: What does "correctable" imply here? Is the player disqualified? Is he substituted for? If no substitute available, do we have an out? Or do you just insert him/her into the game as a legal substitute since the substitute is not legally in the game until a pitch has been thrown?

If I had to guess, I would say that we just record the substitution, no DQ, and move on. I just wish the rule book would be more specific in some situations and this is one of them.

Thanks!
Randall

[whiskers_ump]

Randall,

I think if you read the NOTE added with Section 4A,
you will have your answer. I see an out, but then I may be
way wrong since I don't do much slow pitch....

glen