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Old Sun Jan 02, 2005, 09:43pm
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2nd inning,12u,and by the way,late july,heatindex 115, Im calling by myself,A ROOKIE,batter/runner hits slow roller to f-4,I bust it down to a position about 8 ft short of 1st base,and about 10 ft inside the foul line,f-4 throws into the dirt,I (rim)towards 2nd to a position about 5 ft from 2nd base,in a line from the pitching plate to 2nd base,got a great look at the play! OUT!!! i start walking towards the dish and about the time i reach the pitchers plate the coach appears in front of me hollering how can you make that call? its wrong! I say: coach if you liked that call,youre gonna love this one! YOURE GONE! He got his moneys worth(on the way to the parking lot) .............PLAY BALL! (Handled properly or improperly?) By the way,i called the next week with his team in a tourney in another city and no problems at alll!
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Old Sun Jan 02, 2005, 09:57pm
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2nd inning,12u,and by the way,late july,heatindex 115, Im calling by myself,A ROOKIE,batter/runner hits slow roller to f-4,I bust it down to a position about 8 ft short of 1st base,and about 10 ft inside the foul line,f-4 throws into the dirt,I (rim)towards 2nd to a position about 5 ft from 2nd base,in a line from the pitching plate to 2nd base,got a great look at the play! OUT!!! i start walking towards the dish and about the time i reach the pitchers plate the coach appears in front of me hollering how can you make that call? its wrong! I say: coach if you liked that call,youre gonna love this one! YOURE GONE! He got his moneys worth(on the way to the parking lot) .............PLAY BALL! (Handled properly or improperly?) By the way,i called the next week with his team in a tourney in another city and no problems at alll!
Looks like you answered your own question with that last line....
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Old Sun Jan 02, 2005, 10:07pm
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His team actually won the week of the incident,AND the next week also!
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Old Mon Jan 03, 2005, 10:54am
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i start walking towards the dish and about the time i reach the pitchers plate the coach appears in front of me hollering how can you make that call? its wrong!
If that was truly the extent of the actual "conversation", (with no physical show to add) I think you need to invest in a trigger lock.

I know to you yay-hoos, that is like putting a child-proof lock on a can of Play-dough, but even by my standards, that is a quick thumb.

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Old Mon Jan 03, 2005, 10:58am
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Well...here is one yay-hoo who agrees with you Mike. That was a pretty quick toss if that was all that had happened.
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Old Mon Jan 03, 2005, 12:49pm
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i start walking towards the dish and about the time i reach the pitchers plate the coach appears in front of me hollering how can you make that call? its wrong!
Here is what we know...

Coach is upset and yelling;

Coach has entered the field of play during a live ball;

Coach has blocked the umpire's way back to the plate to visibly confront the umpire in the middle of the field;

Coach is yelling about a judgment call.

I agree the immediate ejection is hair-triggered, but (continuing the gun analogy) the safety should have definitely been off!
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Old Mon Jan 03, 2005, 02:30pm
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add another Texas yay-hoo to the list that says that was a quick thumb, slow down you don't have to be a gunslinger
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Old Mon Jan 03, 2005, 02:48pm
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That was the extent of the conversation.......its kinda hard to type his attitude and by the way,I do feel that no coach comes onto the field of play unless there is an injured player or he has requested time,and been GRANTED time! Quick thumb? MAYBE! Had he benn a little more civil,MAYBE he wouldnt have got tossed! Maybe,but i draw the line at coaches entering the field without being GRA NTED time! He probably would have been tossed anyway! Its funny how quickly they learn NOT to do that! Entering the field like that to argue a call is unsportsmanlike conduct! Hence:auto eject!
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Old Mon Jan 03, 2005, 03:02pm
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Before you start thinking i enter the field looking for someone to eject! I called about 120 games last year,including fall ball,whether it be players,coaches,or fans,in all of those games he was the only person I tossed!
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Old Mon Jan 03, 2005, 07:01pm
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Nay,

Coach needed to go. Upset, yelling, on field with live ball, blocking
return to position, and all on a judgment. Would have been my first
for the year.
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Old Mon Jan 03, 2005, 10:21pm
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Mike: WITH ALL DUE RESPECT,you and a couple others seem to be quite happy calling me a texas gunslinger,fast on the trigger,and assorted crap like that,THATS OK!,BUT I JUST DONT ENCOURAGE COACHES TO ENTER THE FIELD AT ANY TIME THEY PLEASE! (Kinda dissappointed in your attitude,but if you know everything,oh well!!!!!)
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Old Mon Jan 03, 2005, 10:33pm
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1) If you were 8 ft from 1st to make the first call, you were too close for a force play. You should be between 10-15 feet for a force call.

2) If you were 5 ft from 2nd base for the tag play at a 45 degree angle, if you ended up there you were about right, if you started there, you were too close (8-10 ft starting point). I know you were working one man, but you are too close.

3) AND MOST IMPORTANT: I agree with Mike and John, too quick on the trigger. Probably in 100+ heat and being by yourself didn't help, but you should try to keep coaches in the game if possible.

What could you have done differently to diffuse the situation and keep that coach in the game? Maybe nothing, but maybe there was. Just something to think about if it happens again.

I use a simple question like "coach if you're trying to get run to fire your girls up, let me know and we can put on a good show". They usually get the hint. If not, you have given them a warning

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Old Mon Jan 03, 2005, 10:45pm
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Smile

Put on a show?
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Old Mon Jan 03, 2005, 10:47pm
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Now that has to be really great for the integrity of the game!
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Old Mon Jan 03, 2005, 10:52pm
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probably even better than allowing coaches to enter the field,under live-ball circumstance,to yell at an umpire over a judgement call? Blocking the umpires path back to the plate? Great call!
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