No call leads to out?

[WestMichBlue]

Situation: PU only, Women's SP, low level rec league using mat; many young women, some teenages, that obviously never played ball in HS so level of play sometimes approaches that of the family picnic softball game.

R1 on 2B, R2 on 1B, one out, Batter hits high fly on infield, I move out and signal and call IF. Ball is dropped by F5, picked up by F1 and thrown back to F5 as runners advance. F5 backs up a step and touches 3B and watches R1 come by her to land on 3B.

I make no call. Coach says something to R1 and she walks of base heading back to 2B. F1 (smart player) yells for ball and runs over and tags F1. I call out, inning over.

Coach looks a little befuddled, but he understands what happened and eventually teams leave the field and we go on with the game.

Later I wondered if I aided the confusion by failing to make a call on the play at 3B. I didn't feel that I could call "safe" on the initial base tag as R1 was still 6' away. Should I have called "safe" when R1 reached the bag? (Thus ending the play.) Or is it a "non-play" (as I saw it then); no call and walk away. (Would have called time at some point, but R1 ruined that by leaving 3B.)

What do you think?

WMB

[Steve M]

I'd have had that as a non-play, no call until the tag was made on the blond runner.

[Duke]

Don't see where in the post the runner is blonde...:-)

If so I would probably have called safe due the the color of her hair.

[Dakota]

Originally posted by Steve M
I'd have had that as a non-play, no call until the tag was made on the blond runner.

I probably would have call the runner safe after she was on the bag, since it was played like it was a force out.

But my real issue is with Steve...

You forgot about the blond coach, didn't you?

[whiskers_ump]

Originally posted by Dakota

I probably would have call the runner safe after she was on the bag, since it was played like it was a force out.

But my real issue is with Steve...

You forgot about the blond coach, didn't you?

Tom, when you going to Dallas? If driving, come to Beaumont
for a visit. We will be there from 24th of July to Aug. 1.
UIC has not heard from Rachel.

[Rachel]

I'll be there. My application must be in cyberspace somewhere. I'm not even blonde.

[mcrowder]

I think that if the fielder had the ball and was touching the base, and then the runner came in to touch that same base, I'd have made the safe sign.

[WestMichBlue]

"I think that if the fielder had the ball and was touching the base, and then the runner came in to touch that same base, I'd have made the safe sign."

OK - but not my situation. F5 touched base while R1 was still 6' away. F5 walks away, R1 comes to base, their shoulders almost touched as they passed each other.

You call?

WMB

[whiskers_ump]

Originally posted by Rachel
I'll be there. My application must be in cyberspace somewhere. I'm not even blonde.

You will be when you leave Texas. Sun will bleach
your hair for you.

Want to get use to the fields, come in on Friday nite
and call Sat. and Sunday. Teams come early to try out
fields. Pay at the plate for these games. Give you some
going to La. gambling money.

See you on Monday. Have a tournament during the Pre-Nats.

OOOps, just read your e-mail. Sent Anne e-mail to see if she got it. At the State, she said she had not heard from
you and that was this past Fri., Sat., and Sun.


[Edited by whiskers_ump on Jul 14th, 2004 at 03:55 PM]

[TexBlue]

That's a "no play" situation. No call is necessary. The players and especially the coaches have to know some of the rules. They should know that if you walk off a base, you're gonna be out if tagged in a live ball situation. I don't see where your mechanics were at fault at all.

[IRISHMAFIA]

I would probably offer a courtesy, low-key "safe" call.

[mick]

Originally posted by IRISHMAFIA
I would probably offer a courtesy, low-key "safe" call.

Mike,
If R1 looked confused, a low-key "safe" would be good.
If R1 looked like she owned the bag, I woulda passed.
mick

[Skahtboi]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by whiskers_ump

You will be when you leave Texas. Sun will bleach
your hair for you.

In some cases, this is true. However, there are those of us who prefer to keep our sunbleached tresses where the rest of you can't see them, if you catch my drift!

[bluezebra]

Originally posted by Duke
Don't see where in the post the runner is blonde...:-)

If so I would probably have called safe due the the color of her hair.

Steve M didn't write "blonde". He wrote "blond". "Blond" usually refers to a male, "blonde" to a female. Maybe the "blond" runner was a dumb guy in drag.

[Elaine "Lady Blue"]

This is a picture of the coach........




...and a picture of Scott



...and Glen's bleached Texan hair



HAHAHAHAHA