wrong batter

[Cecil4]

Have you seen this play published anywhere?
Another umpire said he thought he saw it somewhere and we are trying to find the source.


A batter had a 3-2 count.
The next pitch was a ball but the batter stayed at the plate.
They hit a home run on the next pitch and the defensive coach then came out and said the batter should have walked on the previous pitch.

Please don't bother with comments about the umpire.

[Tru_in_Blu]

May 2012, ASA Plays and Clarifications.

While not exactly what's in the OP, it's very similar. This would be a tough sell for a single umpire.

PLAY: With 2 outs, R1 on 3B and a count of three balls and one strike on B4, the next pitch is a ball. The umpire calls ball but does not recognize it as ball four. The next pitch to the same batter is fouled off and the umpire gives the count as three balls and two strikes. In a) the offensive coach asks for time, approaches the plate umpire and says “their batter should be on 1B because the previous pitch was ball four.” In b) the umpire gives the count as three balls and two strikes and the next pitch is hit for a home run. Before a pitch to the next batter the defensive coach approaches the plate umpire and said the count was wrong and that player should have been walked.

Ruling: In a) once the umpires get together, discuss the situation and discover the count was wrong, B4 should be awarded 1B since B4 should have received a base on balls two pitches before. In b) once the umpires get together, discuss the situation and discovered the count was wrong, B4 should be placed on 1B because B4 should have been awarded a base on balls two pitches before.

[Cecil4]

Thanks, Ted.

[Cecil4]

Originally Posted by Cecil4

Thanks, Ted.

May 2012 can't be accessed online, AFAIK. Did you save a copy then?

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by Cecil4

May 2012 can't be accessed online, AFAIK. Did you save a copy then?

I've been saving them since 2008. Of course, now some are moot due to updated rules.

[Cecil4]

Originally Posted by tru_in_blu

i've been saving them since 2008. Of course, now some are moot due to updated rules.

Yay, I only have back to 2015

[Robert Goodman]

Basketball has a concept of correctable and non-correctable errors, distinguished by certain events as having happened since the error. Is there such a thing in softball?

[Cecil4]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

Basketball has a concept of correctable and non-correctable errors, distinguished by certain events as having happened since the error. Is there such a thing in softball?

Not defined as such, but there is a rule
"The plate umpire may rectify any situation in which the reversal of an umpire’s decision or a delayed call by an umpire places a batter-runner, a runner or the defensive team in jeopardy."