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Tru_in_Blu Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:45am

Quote:

Originally Posted by chapmaja (Post 1031256)

I also would love to know how many umpires were on this game. Was it a two or three umpire system? Who made the call and how was the decision made to change the call?

I'll guess two based on comments from other posters. Unless there was also a runner on third, the 3-ump system would have had U3 right behind second base. Looks like U1 was in "B" and it would have been his call.

SCalScoreKeeper Tue Mar 19, 2019 01:30pm

This game was covered in two man with two Southern Section finalist umpires. Initial call made was an out. Then the Great Oak coach had a conference with the umpires who conferred and switch the call to safe. The Vista Murrieta coach then argued and was subsequently ejected along with three fans.

Manny A Tue Mar 19, 2019 04:05pm

FWIW, I have Obstruction here. The runner is already into her slide well short of the base and before the ball is in F6's glove. I did a screen capture of the video while the ball is still in flight, and I can see the runner already making her slide too early because of where F6 is positioned. Unfortunately, I can't attach the image here, but you can see the same thing just by stopping the video at the proper time. I think it is a good change of call.

Tru_in_Blu Tue Mar 19, 2019 04:19pm

The March 2018 Plays and Clarifications has Video 2 which is similar to what we've been discussing here.

The call on that video was that there was no OBS. I do not agree with that call. I had OBS when watching it the first time at regular speed. Check it at the 42-second mark.

http://downloads.asasoftball.com/ump...akeTheCall.mp4

Anyone remember if these videos had sound? I thought they did, but I've viewed videos on any number of sites that maybe I'm thinking of other videos.

youngump Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:09am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu (Post 1031290)
The March 2018 Plays and Clarifications has Video 2 which is similar to what we've been discussing here.

The call on that video was that there was no OBS. I do not agree with that call. I had OBS when watching it the first time at regular speed. Check it at the 42-second mark.

http://downloads.asasoftball.com/ump...akeTheCall.mp4

Anyone remember if these videos had sound? I thought they did, but I've viewed videos on any number of sites that maybe I'm thinking of other videos.

I'm in the out in the video, safe in the USA play camp. The difference being I don't think the runner in the USA play slid early. The video play the runner wouldn't have made it to second from that slide even if the fielder had somehow dodged her.

jwwashburn Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:01pm

Who ejected the fans?

SCalScoreKeeper Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:25am

Home plate umpire made the ejections


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