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Old Wed Jan 24, 2018, 11:00pm
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This is hard, but if her game is going to be USA for now, I would go out of my way to not include any other rule sets.
That's the plan. I learned ASA backwards and forwards before ever working another ruleset.

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Well, she shouldn't be working to understand PhD level 2-ump vs 3-ump mechanics.
Agreed. 2-man is where it's at. That being said, I've worked some 3 man games where she's been in attendance. Her question postgame after I was U3: "Why are you so deep in B with a runner on?" (1B) Someone was watching the umpires and not the game...

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And maybe get her an account on Officiating.com.
Soon...

EDIT: I had her read and review rules 6 & 7 tonight (pitching and batting). One night of study and she knew all the pitching preliminaries. I was only able to trip her up on a scenario where the pitcher strides outside the 24 inch lane. WOOO!
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2018, 09:39am
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Agreed. 2-man is where it's at. That being said, I've worked some 3 man games where she's been in attendance. Her question postgame after I was U3: "Why are you so deep in B with a runner on?" (1B) Someone was watching the umpires and not the game...


I'm still trying to figure out why U3 goes to a B position at any time
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2018, 10:57am
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I'm still trying to figure out why U3 goes to a B position at any time
I guess that means you are qualified to teach mechanics.

Depends on who said "B position", age 13 or the vet.
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2018, 11:01am
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. I was only able to trip her up on a scenario where the pitcher strides outside the 24 inch lane. WOOO!
I have new umpire classes coming up. Please send me the scenario.
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2018, 11:05am
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General comments for newbie:
Understanding rules and concepts is most important. We will all have to apply a rule that does not fit verbatim to the book.
Let her apply the simple ones a few times before getting into the subtle and subjective aspects.
The hard part is recognizing what we vets take for granted, but others don't
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2018, 01:23pm
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Something one of the UICs that recruited me to the dark side told me once that stuck with me.

You could have a very rules knowledgeable official who often gets in trouble because he's what I've learned in this forum to be an "OOO".

Or you could have a less knowledgeable official who has better people skills and game management skills that can more easily overcome a bad call.
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Old Thu Jan 25, 2018, 10:12pm
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Something one of the UICs that recruited me to the dark side told me once that stuck with me.

You could have a very rules knowledgeable official who often gets in trouble because he's what I've learned in this forum to be an "OOO".

Or you could have a less knowledgeable official who has better people skills and game management skills that can more easily overcome a bad call.
Or you have a popular umpire (with the players, coaches and fans) who umpires solely reliant on his people skills and is more of a go along to get along (GAGA) when it comes to officiating the game. Unfortunately, s/he gets rulings wrong, but negotiates his way out of arguments.

The real problem is because his has become "likable" to the players and coaches, they believe his interpretations are always right and any upirewho contradicts them is always wrong.

Do NOT get this type of umpire as a mentor.
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