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That brings us to the umpire's judgment of where the OBS occurred. IMO when it occurs at a base AND it affected the path or actions of the runner beyond the base, the "between base" protection extends to the base beyond that where the OBS was initiated. As an example, if a runner is approaching 2B and is OBS and forced to go wide to the outside, not only has s/he been deprived of access to a given path to 2B, but due to the OBS, now has a 65-70 ft distance to 3B. IMO, that forced change in path between 2B & 3B is just as much part of the OBS as that which impeded the runner's approach/access to 2B. Thus, I would protect that runner between 2B & 3B. Same would apply with a play at 1B or 3B.
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"...protection between the bases remains until ALL PLAY ENDS (ball in circle, and runners stopped on their base)"
F6 runs OBS runner back to the protected base. While still holding the ball, asks for and receives TIME. All play has ended at that point. Not trying to pick nits, but I'd like to clarify the parenthetical, especially the "and". Last edited by jmkupka; Mon Oct 16, 2017 at 10:19am. |
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I asked Vickie as well. Haven't heard anything back from her.
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Nor have I... I'm guessing they don't respond personally to individual inquiries, rather they post the more interesting ones in their next release of Ask Dee.
As with almost every other controversial interp I find on this forum, this one faced immediate rejection among my peers. I really hope to see Dee's/Vickie's response somewhere. This play will happen someday, Im sure of it... Last edited by jmkupka; Mon Oct 30, 2017 at 01:31pm. |
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If they come back with the obstruction is cancelled as soon as the runner touches the base they would have reached then the rule really needs to be rewritten. The rule states an obstructed runner cannot be put out between the 2 bases where obstructed and then gives the requirements to cancel that protection. If those requirements are not met there is no other exception to call a runner out between those 2 bases.
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The exception is when the ball is wet; we don't force the pitcher to handle the wet ball. Any other time, F6 needs to get the ball to F1 in the circle. If F6 cannot accomplish that, then the runners need to be free to advance, not limited by the umpire.
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