Originally Posted by teebob21 (Post 1008159)

ASA/USA wants us to start 1BLX as PU and rotate as necessary. NCAA is OK with starting at point of plate from the get go. This being an ASA/USA tournament, I went 15-18 feet 1BLX to read the play and closed to 10-12 to make the call on a tag. (I was not the umpire at 9:13)

That injury at 11:14 is the compound fracture I mentioned in the OP. I was U3, right on top of it. Sounded horrible. Sounded like a combination between a wooden bat breaking and a .22 starter pistol. You'll see me immediately kill it and call for medical personnel. Nothing but a clean late slide and an SS who unfortunately stepped directly into a sliding runner, instead of out of the baseline. :(

As an aside, if you're wondering why I was a bit defensive to the assistant coach immediately after the injury, that's because he told me "That call was absolute bullshit and you know it. You got her hurt and you're gonna cost her that scholarship." Normally in this level of play, that's an ejection for me, but not at that moment. I told him to knock it off, let's be concerned about the player and we could talk about his thoughts on the call later. Instead of talking to me, they went to the TD and said I was rude while they had a hurt player. :|

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 1008195)

He is an AC. Automatic ejection in my book as you described it. And I would not lose one second of sleep about the ejection.

MTD, Sr.

Originally Posted by teebob21 (Post 1008184)

The UIC on the field went to the video during the injury delay and came to the same conclusion we did: late slide resulted in an unfortunate injury. He asked what I said to the assistant, and I told him. Nothing further came of it. It was just a "wrong place, wrong time" incident.

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 1008195)

He is an AC. Automatic ejection in my book as you described it. And I would not lose one second of sleep about the ejection.

MTD, Sr.

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 1008197)

Speaking of wrong place, that may have been a problem. I've always been of the belief that when there is an injury to a player (unless the umpire is a trained medical provider) the umpires should move to another area on the field and allow the team to take care of their player.

Nothing good can come of hanging out near the players and coaches during this time.

Originally Posted by teebob21 (Post 1008203)

Agreed. I have CPR and basic first aid training, but I am not a medical provider. While I immediately knew this was a serious injury, I got out of there as soon as I saw that it was not life-threatening and medical personnel were on the scene.

Originally Posted by teebob21 (Post 1008203)

With all due respect Mark, this is a baseball mentality...one which I would have a hard time subscribing to, even if I still worked baseball. Some of the conferences I work unofficially treat an AC as a subhuman mute homunculus, but I just can't get on board with that.

Every coach on my field has the same amount of rope, regardless of title. Players get less, but that's because they're players. A situation like this, and you have to get mighty personal or profane before I send you off.



Agreed. I have CPR and basic first aid training, but I am not a medical provider. While I immediately knew this was a serious injury, I got out of there as soon as I saw that it was not life-threatening and medical personnel were on the scene.

On a different topic....how about that sell out call on the swipe tag at 3B five minutes before the injury?!! (<--- shameless self promotion) :D :)

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE (Post 1008209)

One of our hs group's members was a certified EMT - we were reminded time and time again, that he was the only one who was officially allowed to help an injured player - otherwise get your butt out of there, and let the coaches (who are supposed to be certified in first aid) help out.

Originally Posted by teebob21 (Post 1008203)

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On a different topic....how about that sell out call on the swipe tag at 3B five minutes before the injury?!! (<--- shameless self promotion) :D :)

Originally Posted by Crabby_Bob (Post 1008218)

Good call, but you let her get ahead of you. In your defense, she had no business going to third.

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE (Post 1008238)

It would be shameless...if I could find it :D

Originally Posted by teebob21 (Post 1008239)

Second pitch of the game. https://youtu.be/vDocZqE_iZs?t=40285

Originally Posted by josephrt1 (Post 1008255)

On 2nd pitch of game, for the play at 3rd. Whose call was that? Shouldn't the PU have that call in 3-man mechanics? 1st base ump should have been heading home? what am i missing?

Originally Posted by umpjim (Post 1008257)

Didn't U1 go out?