The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Softball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 14, 2016, 11:58am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Glendale, AZ
Posts: 2,672
Notes from Umpire Commitee ASA Council Meeting

ASA Properties speaking now....

New shirts will be the same as being worn by MLB umpires
Decision to put the Block USA was made to be easily identifiable
Caps- only Richardson as manufacturer. No more 4 stitch will be sold. Only the poly-serge blend to be sold. Colors are powder blue, navy, pink, discussions going on about adding a cream color or white

...more to come as the meeting goes along...
__________________
It's what you learn after you think you know it all that's important!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 14, 2016, 01:07pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Glendale, AZ
Posts: 2,672
New National Umpire School formats.....

More interaction
Differentiation of instruction based on experience level
Less standing around during drills
More discussion of why things are done
More opportunities for feedback from attendees
__________________
It's what you learn after you think you know it all that's important!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Tue Nov 15, 2016, 11:34am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Land Of The Free and The Home Of The Brave (MD/DE)
Posts: 6,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy View Post
ASA Properties speaking now....

New shirts will be the same as being worn by MLB umpires
Decision to put the Block USA was made to be easily identifiable
Caps- only Richardson as manufacturer. No more 4 stitch will be sold. Only the poly-serge blend to be sold. Colors are powder blue, navy, pink, discussions going on about adding a cream color or white

...more to come as the meeting goes along...
Don't know what "" means, but maybe NFL shirts next, just as relevant.
Are the current micro mesh poly-serge? I just ump, don't analyze fabrics.

More colors means more money. Have they ever seen a white or light color cap after being under a mask or just sweat & dust?
__________________
Officiating takes more than OJT.
It's not our jobs to invent rulings to fit our personal idea of what should and should not be.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Tue Nov 15, 2016, 11:37am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Land Of The Free and The Home Of The Brave (MD/DE)
Posts: 6,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy View Post
New National Umpire School formats.....

More interaction
Differentiation of instruction based on experience level
Less standing around during drills
More discussion of why things are done
More opportunities for feedback from attendees
From what I remember of National School, basically good ideas, especially "Differentiation of instruction based on experience level"; which should be in separate schools if newbies allowed at all.
The "feedback from attendees" also should vary by "experience".
__________________
Officiating takes more than OJT.
It's not our jobs to invent rulings to fit our personal idea of what should and should not be.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Tue Nov 15, 2016, 06:06pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 14,565
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy View Post
Differentiation of instruction based on experience level
IMO, this wasn't a problem until state/metro associations started getting lazy and cheap and pushed newer umpires toward national schools instead of doing their own training.
__________________
The bat issue in softball is as much about liability, insurance and litigation as it is about competition, inflated egos and softball.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Tue Nov 15, 2016, 07:09pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Land Of The Free and The Home Of The Brave (MD/DE)
Posts: 6,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA View Post
IMO, this wasn't a problem until state/metro associations started getting lazy and cheap and pushed newer umpires toward national schools instead of doing their own training.
I almost could have predicted your response.
__________________
Officiating takes more than OJT.
It's not our jobs to invent rulings to fit our personal idea of what should and should not be.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Tue Nov 15, 2016, 08:18pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Fremont, NH
Posts: 1,352
Quote:
Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA View Post
IMO, this wasn't a problem until state/metro associations started getting lazy and cheap and pushed newer umpires toward national schools instead of doing their own training.
I've only umpired 11 years now. When I first got into it I had the benefit of a local group that put on training for folks wanting to become an ASA umpire. There were some annual clinics that were available, but many of those were not as helpful for training as I might have liked.

I did finally find out about National Umpire Schools and National Tournaments. A lot of that information came from this forum for which I'm grateful. I ended up going to 3 National Schools and as a result 4 National Tournaments. But less than a handful of umpires in my area are inclined to attend a national school. The cost (including school, hotel, travel) is a detriment to some and others for legitimate reasons can't manage to get weekends off from work to attend.

We have a lot of umpires who don't even bother to take the umpires' exam each year and/or don't attend any of our state clinics. Some of these are the "uppity college umps" who tend to look down on those that don't work college.

We're doing more for training and offering clinics and hands-on training. But getting folks to show up is still a problem. To improve, we rely a lot on self-motivation. And that, for some, is sorely lacking.
__________________
Ted
USA & NFHS Softball
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Tue Nov 15, 2016, 08:26pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Fremont, NH
Posts: 1,352
Quote:
Originally Posted by CecilOne View Post
Have they ever seen a white or light color cap after being under a mask or just sweat & dust?
I'll guess caps will only come in navy. The other colors may likely be for shirts.

But even a white or cream shirt will get dirty quickly. Can't wear one of those multiple times during a tournament!
__________________
Ted
USA & NFHS Softball
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Tue Nov 15, 2016, 10:01pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Orange County NY
Posts: 698
Send a message via Yahoo to ASA/NYSSOBLUE
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu View Post
I'll guess caps will only come in navy. The other colors may likely be for shirts.

But even a white or cream shirt will get dirty quickly. Can't wear one of those multiple times during a tournament!
We could only get a handful of our local group to buy the navy blue shirts....
__________________
www.chvbgsoinc.org
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Wed Nov 16, 2016, 07:39am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Land Of The Free and The Home Of The Brave (MD/DE)
Posts: 6,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu View Post
I'll guess caps will only come in navy. The other colors may likely be for shirts.

But even a white or cream shirt will get dirty quickly. Can't wear one of those multiple times during a tournament!
And, we are not a fashion show or USSSA.
Even worrying about which shade of blue goes with grey pants is ridiculous.
__________________
Officiating takes more than OJT.
It's not our jobs to invent rulings to fit our personal idea of what should and should not be.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 21, 2016, 01:01pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 286
Quote:
Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA View Post
IMO, this wasn't a problem until state/metro associations started getting lazy and cheap and pushed newer umpires toward national schools instead of doing their own training.
^This.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
ASA Council Meeting DaveASA/FED Softball 13 Wed Nov 21, 2012 09:39am
Additional Notes from Umpire Committee IRISHMAFIA Softball 32 Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:18am
ASA Council meeting... azbigdawg Softball 16 Mon Nov 05, 2007 06:41pm
If this forum was an umpire association meeting pingswinger Baseball 5 Tue Feb 27, 2007 09:16am
Notes from yesterday's OHSAA Rules Interpreter meeting Larks Basketball 12 Mon Oct 10, 2005 03:43pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:44am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1