Pitched ball bounces over backstop.
 

NFHS game today that I biffed a call on. Ball 4 came in and bounced over the backstop. I called dead ball and awarded batter second base. I knew it was a one base award from time it went out, but I ruled that since it was a walk she should get second. WRONG. Never had this happen before. I missed this one.

I actually have a question about this.I always assumed it was 1 base from time it left pitcher's hand. I looked it up in the ASA book (8.5.C) and it doesn't state from what point you award the 1 base. Is it from the time the ball left the pitcher's hand or from the time the ball entered dead ball territory or became blocked?

Bounced over the backstop? Wow!! I've had several nearly go over on the flight of pitch but not even close on a bounce.

Never ever saw this before and I have been umpiring over 35 years. Don't know what caused it to bounce so high. NFHS rule says "The batter is awarded first base only on the fourth ball." I believe the reason I got it wrong is because of the rarity of it plus awarding only to first isn't penalizing the defense.

NCAA says "time of pitch"

ASA & NFHS is one base. If ball 4, BR awarded only 1B

ASA says one base, but it does not state from what time point. For a thrown ball it clearly states 2 bases from runner's position at time ball left fielders hand and for loss of possession it says 1 base from time ball went out of play. But for pitched ball I don't see a starting point defined. Just an observation. I have always gone with 1 base from position at start of the pitch.

NCAA says if on dropped 3rd strike, if batter is legally advancing, they also get first only.

rs #38.

Thanks for the help. I missed that.

the good thing is you'll never miss that one again!

All runners would be on base at time of start of pitch. So it would be a known fact. So why would they have to state that in the rule book?

First of all, in the original situation the batter was at bat, not on base. What was being questioned was the statement about where the award originated for other runners; from the time of the pitch or from the time the ball went out of play. IRISHMAFIA pointed out that the answer was in the rule supplement #38. For a thrown ball or a loss of possession that go out of play, the details were included in the rule itself, but for a blocked ball on a pitch, the originating point for the award was defined back in the supplement and i missed it.