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Old Fri May 06, 2016, 10:01am
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So if you have to tell a player to take off jewelry you have unfairly affected the game. But I get where you are coming from. I do baseball and nit shit rules do not affect the fairness of a game in my neck of the woods.
While I understand the rationale behind the NFHS jewelry rule, I don't paticularly like the "see what we can get away with" attidute making it the umpire's responsibility seems to engender.

NFHS's rules questionnaire asks about a rule proposal to restrict the coach for any violation of "properly and legally equipped" discovered after the plate meeting (question wording heavily paraphrased...). I answered that I would favor such a rule. My reasoning is to place more of the burden on the coach, where (IMO) it properly belongs.
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Old Fri May 06, 2016, 10:13am
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While I understand the rationale behind the NFHS jewelry rule, I don't paticularly like the "see what we can get away with" attidute making it the umpire's responsibility seems to engender.

NFHS's rules questionnaire asks about a rule proposal to restrict the coach for any violation of "properly and legally equipped" discovered after the plate meeting (question wording heavily paraphrased...). I answered that I would favor such a rule. My reasoning is to place more of the burden on the coach, where (IMO) it properly belongs.
I would be a lot more supportive if they more reasonably defined jewelry and adornments. I hate needing to address some of the items like gel bands, yarn, hair control items on the wrist, and other items obviously not unsafe short of 27th-world imagination scenarios.
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Old Fri May 06, 2016, 11:25am
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I would be a lot more supportive if they more reasonably defined jewelry and adornments. I hate needing to address some of the items like gel bands, yarn, hair control items on the wrist, and other items obviously not unsafe short of 27th-world imagination scenarios.
I agree with this.

But, the NFHS rule CAN be applied very simply: unless the adornment is specifically allowed, it is illegal.
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Old Fri May 06, 2016, 11:47am
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I would be a lot more supportive if they more reasonably defined jewelry and adornments. I hate needing to address some of the items like gel bands, yarn, hair control items on the wrist, and other items obviously not unsafe short of 27th-world imagination scenarios.

Steve:

My definition is jewelry is very simple: If you weren't wearing when you came out of the womb, it is jewelry. !

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Old Fri May 06, 2016, 11:55am
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My definition is jewelry is very simple: If you weren't wearing when you came out of the womb, it is jewelry. !

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So no uniforms or other garments??
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Old Fri May 06, 2016, 11:58am
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My definition is jewelry is very simple: If you weren't wearing when you came out of the womb, it is jewelry. !

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Including eyeglasses, braces on teeth (especially the brightly-colored designer versions), or an insulin pump either attached to a belt or in a back pocket?
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