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Big Slick Mon Apr 25, 2016 01:14pm
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 986722)
There are some conflicting opinions as to whether you wait for contact to happen to rule OBS or if the presence of a defender blocking the path causes a player to slowdown or reroute as obstruction.
If the runner slows down or reroute, then you do have obstruction. That is being hindered. However, absent a slowdown or reroute, the defenders positioning is not in and of itself obstruction.

CecilOne Mon Apr 25, 2016 01:15pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 986722)
There are some conflicting opinions as to whether you wait for contact to happen to rule OBS or if the presence of a defender blocking the path causes a player to slowdown or reroute as obstruction.
If you think contact is needed, you are wrong. "slowdown or reroute " is being hindered or impeded.

SNIPERBBB Mon Apr 25, 2016 01:26pm
I didn't say there needed to be contact. I said theres conflicting opinions on whether the presence of the defender is enough of there has to be contact.

You see more of the former because umpires aren't watching the runners enough to know what they had to do in order to reach the next base.

youngump Mon Apr 25, 2016 02:51pm
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 986729)
I didn't say there needed to be contact. I said theres conflicting opinions on whether the presence of the defender is enough of there has to be contact.

You see more of the former because umpires aren't watching the runners enough to know what they had to do in order to reach the next base.
By conflicting opinions, I just want to make sure that you mean: there are those who are right and there are those who conflict with them. (The first group would be those who say the runner has to be impeded, and the latter group consists of those who say the defender being there is enough or that contact is required). I'm not sure what the point of saying that there are conflicting opinions is. The rule is clear.

IRISHMAFIA Mon Apr 25, 2016 08:14pm
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 986722)
There are some conflicting opinions as to whether you wait for contact to happen to rule OBS or if the presence of a defender blocking the path causes a player to slowdown or reroute as obstruction.
No conflicting opinions here. An umpire who waits for contact isn't doing his/her job.

CecilOne Tue Apr 26, 2016 06:57am
1) Fielder just being anywhere is not OBS.
2) Contact is not required.
3) Hindering or impeding is needed.

CecilOne Tue Apr 26, 2016 07:01am
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 986729)
I didn't say there needed to be contact. I said theres conflicting opinions on whether the presence of the defender is enough of there has to be contact.

You see more of the former because umpires aren't watching the runners enough to know what they had to do in order to reach the next base.
Sorry I was too abrupt.:o
I should have said "Those who think contact is needed (not you) are incorrect.

bsnalex Tue Apr 26, 2016 07:44am
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Originally Posted by charliej47 (Post 986572)
Inattentive F3 hinder B1 round the base going to 2nd. No play is mad as she goes into second base.

Do you call OBS every time you see it?

I tend to do so and then explain if asked.:eek:
I don't know what the issue is here. OBS is OBS. Call it when you see it. If they ask, tell them why. If it's repetitive, they'll get the message eventually.

charliej47 Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:01am
The reason I started this, that I have gotten a lot os static over the years as I am constantly calling OBS when I see it.

A lot of my partners question why when the runner does not try for more bases.

I have tried to explain the ASA training where OBS was taught and explained as to how to apply it when Jerry Fick gave the class in Cincinnati a couple of years ago.

I have noticed that if the runner is not trying, most of my partners will not call it.

I have called it a lot when they would not as I saw it as OBS and they didn't.

IRISHMAFIA Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by charliej47 (Post 986765)
The reason I started this, that I have gotten a lot os static over the years as I am constantly calling OBS when I see it.

A lot of my partners question why when the runner does not try for more bases.

I have tried to explain the ASA training where OBS was taught and explained as to how to apply it when Jerry Fick gave the class in Cincinnati a couple of years ago.

I have noticed that if the runner is not trying, most of my partners will not call it.

I have called it a lot when they would not as I saw it as OBS and they didn't.
As you can see, you are doing the right thing by calling a violation when seen. Those giving you the static should be avoided like the plague as there is no benefit to you having to defend yourself to them.

BTW, this is not a territorial call. If you witness OBS (and I am referring to obvious OBS), you can make that call.


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