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illinoisbluezeb Tue May 10, 2016 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by SWFLguy (Post 987297)
Retired high school teacher here of 32 years. Actually studied test construction in college and put it work work in my career. The True or False items in sports official's tests often end up as reading tests and not a valid test of an official's ability to make correct calls on the field. A well constructed multiple choice test is more reliable/valid. They are not that difficult to construct. In a perfect world, those are the kind of tests we would be taking. See SAT's and such as an example.
So Illinois has done something correctly !!!!
IHSA has been using multiple choice questions for a few years now.
Only 25-30 questions.

JDM Wed May 11, 2016 10:46am
Why couldn't the B2 attempt to get to 1st if the R1 was attempting to get to 2nd at the beginning of the play?

youngump Wed May 11, 2016 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by JDM (Post 987403)
Why couldn't the B2 attempt to get to 1st if the R1 was attempting to get to 2nd at the beginning of the play?
Because those are the rules. 1st has to be open at the time of pitch or there must be 2 outs for the B to become a BR on a dropped third strike.

JDM Wed May 11, 2016 12:54pm
If R1 doesn't go to 2nd with 2 outs on a dropped 3rd strike, could the fielders tag R1 standing on 1st for a out or is the batter out if the R1 doesn't try to advance to 2nd?

Dakota Wed May 11, 2016 01:16pm
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Originally Posted by JDM (Post 987411)
If R1 doesn't go to 2nd with 2 outs on a dropped 3rd strike, could the fielders tag R1 standing on 1st for a out or is the batter out if the R1 doesn't try to advance to 2nd?
I auggest you take this back to basics rather than thinking of the runner's and BR's status being different because it was a D3K.

With less than 2 outs and 1B empty at the time of the pitch or with 2 outs, if strike 3 is uncaught, the batter becomes a batter-runner.

Everything after that is exactly the same as for any other reason the batter becomes a batter-runner.

Tru_in_Blu Wed May 11, 2016 01:16pm
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Originally Posted by JDM (Post 987411)
If R1 doesn't go to 2nd with 2 outs on a dropped 3rd strike, could the fielders tag R1 standing on 1st for a out or is the batter out if the R1 doesn't try to advance to 2nd?
It becomes a force play. For example, with the bases loaded on a D3K & 2 outs, the catcher merely has to step on the plate with possession of the ball. Forces are in effect at all bases.


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