Trip, then attack

[bainsey]

From a South Carolina game on Monday. Charges were later pressed...

[grunewar]

Incredible......and I was going to post it, but you beat me to it.

Hope they throw the book at her!

My son was a pretty good soccer player and the fastest sprinter in school. After getting beat a couple of times, the defenders began to take actions into their own hands.....I can't count how many yellow cards, red cards, direct and indirect kicks were directly contributed to him. But, I do know in three successive seasons he had a bruised kidney, broken ankle, and torn ACL as a result of some "rough play."

His senior year, he ran track............less contact there.

[Eastshire]

Assume for the moment that you had a caution for the trip, do you still give it in this situation?

Also, where the heck is the center while this is going on? Both ARs arrive on scene before him.

[Welpe]

All I know is if I were first on scene while the attacker was punching the player in the head, it'd take everything within me not to give her a two handed shove off of the victim.

These are the types of things where I hate having to stand back because those punches can cause some serious injury.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Welpe

All I know is if I were first on scene while the attacker was punching the player in the head, it'd take everything within me not to give her a two handed shove off of the victim.

These are the types of things where I hate having to stand back because those punches can cause some serious injury.

I don't know that I would shove, but I do think I'd step between them when one of them is defenseless like this.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

Assume for the moment that you had a caution for the trip....

I wouldn't. Our state presently requires a ten-minute sit for cautions, and this foul doesn't warrant a ten-minute sit, IMO.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I wouldn't. Our state presently requires a ten-minute sit for cautions, and this foul doesn't warrant a ten-minute sit, IMO.

Wow, that's counter-productive. I don't mind the required substitution on a yellow that much, but a 10 minute sin bin is just going to prevent referees from giving justified yellows.

I have the same issue with my state's red card policy. The second red you receive is a season ban regardless of why it's given. I bottled several DOGSO cards this past season because it wasn't worth risking the player's season to give the card he'd earned.

But, to get back to my original question, if it was a bad enough foul for a caution, would you still give it?

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

Wow, that's counter-productive. I don't mind the required substitution on a yellow that much, but a 10 minute sin bin is just going to prevent referees from giving justified yellows.

That's why we're trying to fight the rule. And yes, we're not supposed to consider the sit when considering yellow cards, but honestly, how can we not?

I have the same issue with my state's red card policy. The second red you receive is a season ban regardless of why it's given. I bottled several DOGSO cards this past season because it wasn't worth risking the player's season to give the card he'd earned.

A season ban is even worse, IMO. A game or two, I can see.

But, to get back to my original question, if it was a bad enough foul for a caution, would you still give it?

I still didn't think this was bad enough (it was an unintentional tangling of feet), but just because you get wrongfully pummelled does not earn you a freebie. A yellow is a yellow.