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Forum: Softball Fri Nov 21, 2008, 10:39am
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Posted By Dakota
The rule being discussed does not apply to any of...

The rule being discussed does not apply to any of the tortured "when does the batter become a batter-runner and when does the batter-runner become a batter" angels-on-the-head-of-a-pin scenarios for...
Forum: Softball Thu Nov 20, 2008, 04:39pm
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Posted By Dakota
If this became a common trick to attempt to...

If this became a common trick to attempt to "draw" a walk, ASA might address it in the rules, but I wouldn't make book on it even then. To me, it is only slightly more "unfair" than the batter doing...
Forum: Softball Thu Nov 20, 2008, 04:20pm
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Posted By Dakota
Did you mean F2 catches the pop up?

Did you mean F2 catches the pop up?
Forum: Softball Thu Nov 20, 2008, 04:06pm
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Views: 5,793
Posted By Dakota
I don't contend anything. It is the clear...

I don't contend anything. It is the clear meaning of the rule, unless you try to apply the "fairness doctrine." You cannot have an attempted put out unless there is a possible put out to attempt.
Forum: Softball Thu Nov 20, 2008, 03:52pm
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Posted By Dakota
You'd have to delete the word "other" in #3, or...

You'd have to delete the word "other" in #3, or people would argue that #1 only applies with runners on. :rolleyes:
Like Mike said... fix all the fractured phrases, grammar, and logical oddities...
Forum: Softball Thu Nov 20, 2008, 03:40pm
Replies: 88
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Posted By Dakota
What "other interpretation" would that be? That...

What "other interpretation" would that be? That you can have an attempted put out with no runners?
Forum: Softball Thu Nov 20, 2008, 03:38pm
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Posted By Dakota
Steve, I couldn't quite tell which "side"...

Steve,

I couldn't quite tell which "side" youngump was arguing, but it seems to me the argument both he and Dave are making is based on a narrow and literal reading of PART of the rule and then...
Forum: Softball Thu Nov 20, 2008, 12:21pm
Replies: 88
Views: 5,793
Posted By Dakota
Anyone expecting the ASA rule book to be...

Anyone expecting the ASA rule book to be grammatically and syntactically precise with respect to the English language or the rules of logical argument is barking up the wrong tree.

If I were to...
Forum: Softball Fri Nov 14, 2008, 04:52pm
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Views: 5,793
Posted By Dakota
Problem is, it was not a BR that was running. A...

Problem is, it was not a BR that was running. A batter cannot be put out by either F2 or F3.
Forum: Softball Fri Nov 14, 2008, 03:31pm
Replies: 88
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Posted By Dakota
From ASA 2007 (since I have that one...

From ASA 2007 (since I have that one electronically)
6FP-7-BIn my situation, the bases were empty, the batter was still a batter, and not a BR. It was not strike 3. And, there could be no...
Forum: Softball Fri Nov 14, 2008, 12:25pm
Replies: 88
Views: 5,793
Posted By Dakota
Nah, just fiddling with the count to get the...

Nah, just fiddling with the count to get the sitch right, and goofed it up... but what about the question... is it ball 4?
Forum: Softball Fri Nov 14, 2008, 11:43am
Replies: 88
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Posted By Dakota
Bla... 3-1.

Bla... 3-1.
Forum: Softball Fri Nov 14, 2008, 11:38am
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Posted By Dakota
Absolutely that is true. Is it "fair"? BFOM,...

Absolutely that is true. Is it "fair"? BFOM, but it is the rule.

3-1 count, no outs, bases empty. Pitch is low, batter swings and misses, F2 controls the ball after it hits the dirt. Batter...
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