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Forum: Softball Sat Nov 29, 2008, 03:56pm

Replies: 88 Catcher not returning ball to pitcher Views: 5,792 Posted By AtlUmpSteve Ted, I respect what you are saying. No need to... Ted, I respect what you are saying. No need to look for issues that don't need to be issues. But, I disagree with giving a warning for a clear rule violation with a clearly stated penalty;...

Forum: Softball Fri Nov 21, 2008, 12:00pm

Replies: 88 Catcher not returning ball to pitcher Views: 5,792 Posted By AtlUmpSteve Certainly true. The relationship goes back... Certainly true. The relationship goes back to the assertion that it is possible to judge an attempt for a putout without a runner or batter-runner, and the following discussion as efforts to prove...

Forum: Softball Fri Nov 21, 2008, 10:32am

Replies: 88 Catcher not returning ball to pitcher Views: 5,792 Posted By AtlUmpSteve A reasonable extension of where the thread has... A reasonable extension of where the thread has headed, not so much a hijack. It isn't INT, because the only INT on a foul ball is interfering with a foul fly. In every case, there has to be a...

Forum: Softball Fri Nov 21, 2008, 10:26am

Replies: 88 Catcher not returning ball to pitcher Views: 5,792 Posted By AtlUmpSteve Closest one, and possibly technically correct. ... Closest one, and possibly technically correct. At the same instant F2 began the sequence of attempting the putout, the ball became foul by rule, and the batter-runner stopped being a (potential)...

Forum: Softball Fri Nov 21, 2008, 01:09am

Replies: 88 Catcher not returning ball to pitcher Views: 5,792 Posted By AtlUmpSteve So, with that personal interpretation, rule on... So, with that personal interpretation, rule on the following: B1 hits a ground ball down the first baseline, and while the ball is momentarily in foul territory, runs into F1 that was closest to...

Forum: Softball Thu Nov 20, 2008, 04:43pm

Replies: 88 Catcher not returning ball to pitcher Views: 5,792 Posted By AtlUmpSteve Sorry, no cigar. When B1 hits the ball, B1 is a... Sorry, no cigar. When B1 hits the ball, B1 is a (momentary) BR until the ball is declared foul by rule; over foul territory is meaningless. So, the attempted putout was on a batter-runner (at the...

Forum: Softball Thu Nov 20, 2008, 04:25pm

Replies: 88 Catcher not returning ball to pitcher Views: 5,792 Posted By AtlUmpSteve Yes, sorry. F2 catches the pop-up, and throws it... Yes, sorry. F2 catches the pop-up, and throws it around the horn in my example; I will fix it to clarify for late readers.

Forum: Softball Thu Nov 20, 2008, 04:23pm

Replies: 88 Catcher not returning ball to pitcher Views: 5,792 Posted By AtlUmpSteve So your logic is as follows: Batter is not a... So your logic is as follows: Batter is not a batter runner. Batter-runner can be put out at first; batter cannot be put out at first. Trying to put out a batter-runner at first by throwing to...

Forum: Softball Thu Nov 20, 2008, 04:14pm

Replies: 88 Catcher not returning ball to pitcher Views: 5,792 Posted By AtlUmpSteve Sorry, but I can think of several cases where... Sorry, but I can think of several cases where that would change the current rule. Example 1 is no runners, batter pops up to F2. By the result of hitting the ball, batter becomes a batter-runner;...

Forum: Softball Thu Nov 20, 2008, 03:19pm

Replies: 88 Catcher not returning ball to pitcher Views: 5,792 Posted By AtlUmpSteve I'm not understanding your position, or else you... I'm not understanding your position, or else you are asking the wrong side of the discussion. I am saying there is no time that anyone can attempt a putout after the pitcher has pitched the ball if...

Forum: Softball Thu Nov 20, 2008, 11:43am

Replies: 88 Catcher not returning ball to pitcher Views: 5,792 Posted By AtlUmpSteve JMO, but I think your request for a definition of... JMO, but I think your request for a definition of an attempted putout is intentionally obtuse. It should be crystal clear that there must be an available putout, any possible play being made, to...

Forum: Softball Thu Nov 20, 2008, 10:38am

Replies: 88 Catcher not returning ball to pitcher Views: 5,792 Posted By AtlUmpSteve Dave, to paraphrase your position, you are... Dave, to paraphrase your position, you are judging an attempted putout when there is no one that can be put out, because you think that makes it fair? You are asking for a rules reference that is...

Forum: Softball Sat Nov 15, 2008, 07:13pm

Replies: 88 Catcher not returning ball to pitcher Views: 5,792 Posted By AtlUmpSteve Sorry, you have read something that isn't there. ... Sorry, you have read something that isn't there. The rule reference above is clear that the catcher must return pitches to the pitcher. Your "sitch" has no relationship at all; it isn't the...

Forum: Softball Thu Nov 13, 2008, 11:08pm

Replies: 88 Catcher not returning ball to pitcher Views: 5,792 Posted By AtlUmpSteve Why should the ASA National Office answer a local... Why should the ASA National Office answer a local rule question that didn't have the respect to follow the local chain of command? Assuming he is /you are registered with ASA, you have a local UIC,...

Forum: Softball Thu Nov 13, 2008, 11:01pm

Replies: 88 Catcher not returning ball to pitcher Views: 5,792 Posted By AtlUmpSteve Let me try to answer the reason for the rule. ... Let me try to answer the reason for the rule. When I started as an umpire in the early 70's, almost every men's fastpitch catcher in the leagues I called threw the ball to someone other than the...

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