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Forum: Basketball Wed Jul 08, 2009, 02:53pm

Replies: 56 Jump ball or out of bounds? Views: 4,407 Posted By ILMalti Then I stand corrected. Then I stand corrected.

Forum: Basketball Wed Jul 08, 2009, 04:40am

Replies: 56 Jump ball or out of bounds? Views: 4,407 Posted By ILMalti This is the short version since I lost my length... This is the short version since I lost my length disertation : We are talking about A) 4.25.1 ONLY; ie A1 has ball foot/feet on court not dribbling. B) A1 and B1 only have one hand a piece on...

Forum: Basketball Tue Jul 07, 2009, 06:55pm

Replies: 56 Jump ball or out of bounds? Views: 4,407 Posted By ILMalti I am still debating internally how this and... I am still debating internally how this and Camron post fall under the "undue roughness", I still do not see how it is possible, but I will get back with my definitive answer shortly

Forum: Basketball Tue Jul 07, 2009, 05:48pm

Replies: 56 Jump ball or out of bounds? Views: 4,407 Posted By ILMalti Good point. I'll think about it will get back,... Good point. I'll think about it will get back, the clause that is holding me back from answering totally is the "undue roughness" . In the situation I described, all the shooter needs to do is lower...

Forum: Basketball Tue Jul 07, 2009, 05:17pm

Replies: 56 Jump ball or out of bounds? Views: 4,407 Posted By ILMalti Please read my full post. If a player is on... Please read my full post. If a player is on the GROUND and is about to try and the opponet places a hand on the ball preventing the try, this is NOT a held ball,

Forum: Basketball Tue Jul 07, 2009, 04:49pm

Replies: 56 Jump ball or out of bounds? Views: 4,407 Posted By ILMalti I just added 2 + 2 and now fully understand your... I just added 2 + 2 and now fully understand your previous statement "yep. two separate articles make for two separate scenarios." Opps :o

Forum: Basketball Tue Jul 07, 2009, 04:33pm

Replies: 56 Jump ball or out of bounds? Views: 4,407 Posted By ILMalti Regardless. The premesis of "just an other ref"... Regardless. The premesis of "just an other ref" is not correct since if an offensive player was standing on the ground about to shoot and a defender puts a hand on the ball, not held ball according...

Forum: Basketball Tue Jul 07, 2009, 04:16pm

Replies: 56 Jump ball or out of bounds? Views: 4,407 Posted By ILMalti Agree the word "prevents" does Agree the word "prevents" does

Forum: Basketball Tue Jul 07, 2009, 04:07pm

Replies: 56 Jump ball or out of bounds? Views: 4,407 Posted By ILMalti Disagree Airborne is very important since rule... Disagree Airborne is very important since rule 4.25.2 states "prevents an airborne player..." 4.25.1 specifically says "opponents have their HANDS so firmly" (emphasis added), ie both hands ie 4...

Forum: Basketball Tue Jul 07, 2009, 03:45pm

Replies: 56 Jump ball or out of bounds? Views: 4,407 Posted By ILMalti Sorry for not answering earlier, to this and your... Sorry for not answering earlier, to this and your other post. I still stand by what i said. If i read you statement rightly "is able to release the ball" means that the opponent did not...

Forum: Basketball Fri Jul 03, 2009, 10:58am

Replies: 56 Jump ball or out of bounds? Views: 4,407 Posted By ILMalti But from your own MSG7 you were able to release... But from your own MSG7 you were able to release it, thus you were not prevented thus no held ball.

Forum: Basketball Thu Jul 02, 2009, 11:43pm

Replies: 56 Jump ball or out of bounds? Views: 4,407 Posted By ILMalti If the shooter attempt to release the ball for a... If the shooter attempt to release the ball for a try or the throw was prevented, what happened after is moot. Held Ball On the other hand if the shooter jumped in the air and as the defender was...

Forum: Basketball Thu Jul 02, 2009, 12:49pm

Replies: 56 Jump ball or out of bounds? Views: 4,407 Posted By ILMalti The held ball came first Therefore held ball is... The held ball came first Therefore held ball is called. When they left the floor I assume both playes were inbound I did edit my post Thank you I hope for a good call once in awhile :)

Forum: Basketball Thu Jul 02, 2009, 12:43pm

Replies: 56 Jump ball or out of bounds? Views: 4,407 Posted By ILMalti The rule says a held ball if "... control cannot... The rule says a held ball if "... control cannot to obtained without undue roughness (4.25.1) and as in your case "... prevents an airborne player from...." (4.25.2) neither seem to apply here...

Forum: Basketball Thu Jul 02, 2009, 12:39pm

Replies: 56 Jump ball or out of bounds? Views: 4,407 Posted By ILMalti This situation is clearly covered by 4.25.2 "An... This situation is clearly covered by 4.25.2 "An opponent places his/her hand on the ball and prevents an airborne player from throwing the ball or releasing it on a try. The OP and this is...

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