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Forum: Basketball Thu Jun 28, 2007, 01:48pm
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Posted By Jurassic Referee
How about an approved ruling in this year's NCAA...

How about an approved ruling in this year's NCAA rulebook?

Shrug....
Forum: Basketball Thu Jun 28, 2007, 10:00am
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
Actually, to be precise, I think he is saying.......

Actually, to be precise, I think he is saying....
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Forum: Basketball Thu Jun 28, 2007, 09:22am
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Posted By Jurassic Referee
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Forum: Basketball Thu Jun 28, 2007, 06:13am
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Posted By Jurassic Referee
1) Cool. Of course, I don't agree, but cool. My...

1) Cool. Of course, I don't agree, but cool. My original question still stands. Explain why no time is put back on the clock in AR121.

2) Unfortunately for your thesis, AR121 says that they don't...
Forum: Basketball Thu Jun 28, 2007, 02:19am
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
Where is the timing mistake? The timer stopped...

Where is the timing mistake? The timer stopped the clock on the whistle.

And......<b>how</b> do you use the monitor <b>accurately</b> to put back on 0.1 seconds or 0.2 seconds?
Forum: Basketball Wed Jun 27, 2007, 08:43pm
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
Cool. Now explain why NCAA AR121 doesn't allow...

Cool. Now explain why NCAA AR121 doesn't allow for monitor usage then?

I'm just pointing out what the NCAA rule book says. I'm not giving my opinion on anything.
Forum: Basketball Wed Jun 27, 2007, 08:28pm
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
That's cool. Now 'splain to me exactly how you...

That's cool. Now 'splain to me exactly how you <b>know</b>, using the monitor and clock display, exactly <b>when</b> the clock should have been stopped? The whistle for the foul is supposed to stop...
Forum: Basketball Wed Jun 27, 2007, 07:30pm
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
Nope, I didn't miss that. That was my point....

Nope, I didn't miss that. That was my point. You're still trying to use a timing mistake in stopping the clock. The original post does not contain a timing mistake. AR121 and the NFHS case play have...
Forum: Basketball Wed Jun 27, 2007, 05:31pm
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
I'm not saying this. Nor have I ever said this....

I'm not saying this. Nor have I ever said this. The NCAA rule book is saying this. I'm just repeating what they say. Specifically, the NCAA is saying this through AR121(a) at R5-7-3. That AR is the...
Forum: Basketball Wed Jun 27, 2007, 05:22pm
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
Yes, if the timer does have <b>definite</b>...

Yes, if the timer does have <b>definite</b> knowledge you can use it. See NFHS case play 5.10.1SitD.
Forum: Basketball Wed Jun 27, 2007, 03:28pm
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Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
1) The NFHS case play is <b>exactly</b> the same...

1) The NFHS case play is <b>exactly</b> the same as the NCAA AR.Are you really saying that FED case play 5.6.2SitD is <b>wrong</b>?

2) Again, this is <b>NOT</b> the play being discussed. It has...
Forum: Basketball Wed Jun 27, 2007, 03:13pm
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
You put back on the <b>exact</b> time that you...

You put back on the <b>exact</b> time that you see on the clock. You take off the <b>exact</b> time of your count.

Again, where may I find anywhere in the rules-NCAA or NFHS- any reference to...
Forum: Basketball Wed Jun 27, 2007, 11:23am
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
1) Disagree. It is true. Definite knowledge is...

1) Disagree. It is true. Definite knowledge is exact knowledge, not a guess. You have <b>NO</b> idea how much time ran off the clock in this play. End of story--- rules-wise. If you think otherwise,...
Forum: Basketball Wed Jun 27, 2007, 10:13am
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
You have no rules justification to put any time...

You have no rules justification to put any time back on the clock. You do not have <b>definite</b> knowledge of any kind. No one observed the time on the clock and there was no official count of any...
Forum: Basketball Tue Jun 26, 2007, 06:54am
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
Not really, I don't think. This is just the...

Not really, I don't think. This is just the opinion of a not very knowledgeable rules interpreter from one association in South Carolina. I doubt very much that it came from the state and is regarded...
Forum: Basketball Tue Jun 26, 2007, 02:19am
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
And South Carolina completely ignored case book...

And South Carolina completely ignored case book play 5.6.2SitD when they made that ruling. Their ruling is at complete odds with that NFHS case play.

Silly monkeys.
Forum: Basketball Tue Jun 26, 2007, 02:04am
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
Can't really argue with that either.

Can't really argue with that either.
Forum: Basketball Mon Jun 25, 2007, 07:33pm
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
Canada is in South Carolina?:D

Canada is in South Carolina?:D
Forum: Basketball Mon Jun 25, 2007, 07:17pm
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
NFHS case book play 5.6.2SitD does though. Just...

NFHS case book play 5.6.2SitD does though. Just about the same ruling as NCAA AR121.
Forum: Basketball Mon Jun 25, 2007, 07:15pm
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
NFHS case book play 5.6.2SitD says otherwise. ...

NFHS case book play 5.6.2SitD says otherwise.

Thank Nevada for digging that one up from an old thread.
Forum: Basketball Mon Jun 25, 2007, 05:22pm
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
Well, the FED and the NCAA have basically the...

Well, the FED and the NCAA have basically the same rules language concerning when the ball is dead, etc. The NCAA just went one step further with which is basically a case play.

What rules...
Forum: Basketball Mon Jun 25, 2007, 04:50pm
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
Yup. One is an error. One isn't. That's what NCAA...

Yup. One is an error. One isn't. That's what NCAA AR121 is saying.
Forum: Basketball Mon Jun 25, 2007, 03:30pm
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
That determination is made for each and every...

That determination is made for each and every play. It sureasheck doesn't hold for all plays. If I feel that the timer was slow stopping the clock, and I have <b>definite</b> information that will...
Forum: Basketball Mon Jun 25, 2007, 03:24pm
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
1) Well, of course I can't. Each play is...

1) Well, of course I can't. Each play is different. This play being discussed isn't an <b>error</b> <i>per se</i> though.

2) Feel feel to explain why NCAA AR121 sez you're completely full of...
Forum: Basketball Mon Jun 25, 2007, 02:06pm
Replies: 80
Views: 5,109
Posted By Jurassic Referee
You're talking about a timing <b>error</b> too. ...

You're talking about a timing <b>error</b> too.

See NFHS rule 5-6-2EXCEPTION2:--<i>"If a held ball or violation occurs so near the expiration of time that the timer cannot get the clock stopped...
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