2 man pre-game

[Ballen]

Anyone have a 2-man pregame they will share?

[RILAX]

Hear is one I made last season. Most of it is a starting point to discus with, so if you don't like something fine change it. It is a bit long and I have yet been able to go though the whole list in a pregame.

If you want me to email it to you just let me know. (There is a bit of formatting in a word document).


I. Pre-Game
A. Field
i. Walk
ii. Check cones lines goals etc
B. Coaches
i. Both R and U meet with coach
ii. R gives Coach certification
iii. Get captain’s and In-Home’s #s
C. Table
i. Talk with scorer and timer
ii. Check In-Home’s # in the book
1. If Table is done before Coach get In-Home’s # then check with coach
iii. Horn works?
iv. Clocks
1. Game-if not visible 20 secs on field
2. Penalty-use game clock or second?
D. Officials
i. Do A first
ii. B & C should be quickly but completely
iii. Wait in front of table area until 5 mins before game
iv. Blue cards if RIIL
E. Captains
i. R get home face table
1. Think “look at girlfriends at table”
ii. U get vis face home
iii. Try to have them know which goal/AP they want
iv. Introduce each other
v. Flip coin
1. Vis calls before flip
2. Catch coin – don’t flip in hand
3. Show to losers first then winners
vi. Winners choice
1. NCCA AP or goal
2. NF goal AP with winner
F. Line up
i. L shoulder to the goal defending
ii. 5 yards apart
iii. R says something brief
iv. Goalies shake
v. Teams shake
vi. Get them going

II. Opening Face/Faceoffs
A. R gets face off and U get coaches side line
i. Unless decided before that R gets coaches 1st and 2nd halves
B. Face offs in general
i. On=face off man
ii. Off=Man on box
C. Off official lines up on box and where Goal area line intersects
D. On official checks to see if off is set to go
E. Then start face off
i. Get players down
ii. Make sure they are in proper positions
1. Varsity: Give 1 warning for each player and do not touch the players
2. JV should do Varsity unless players are clueless
iii. Once players are set get face off started
F. If Illegal Procedure before whistle DO NOT blow it, if after toot toot toot
G. Once play starts On should get out of the area as soon as possible
i. Watch for Holds and withholding illegal body-checks
ii. Watch for wing men
H. Once On or Off start possession call finish it even if it is wrong – more dangerous to try to stop it
I. Players get released on:
i. Possession
ii. Ball crosses Defensive area
1. If unsure of OOB or Inadvertent whistle AP
iii. Time-serving foul
iv. Out of bounds
1. Unless unsure who was the last to touch it – REFACE
J. Technical Foul DO NOT RELEASE UNTILL WHISTLE
K. If man down and player is placed in middle area OFF cheats up for Offside

III. Field Play
A. Goal
i. Only L signals
1. Make it look good
2. Do not worry about ball make sure no Unsportmanlike going on first
ii. Get number and relay ball
iii. T becomes ON L becomes OFF
iv. Write down number when at position
v. ON has the beeper – constant place vs flip flop of OFF
vi. Face off
B. Penalty
i. If one person called penalties:
1. Closest to bench called it: tell partner first then table
a. Partner gets play ready to go
2. Farthest from bench called it: tell partner and get play ready
a. Partner will tell table
ii. If both persons called penalties or is complicated talk about it first
1. Then closest tells table and farthest sets up play.
C. Time out
i. Live ball
1. Everywhere NFHS offensive half NCAA
2. Blow whistle to stop play
3. Say what you have and who called it
ii. Dead ball
1. Both teams everywhere
2. Say it first
3. If teams did not hear you blow whistle
iii. General
1. Let table know and partner know
2. Tell coach if he is out
a. Assistant if Head is not paying attention
3. Record where ball is or have some other way of remembering
D. Fights
i. Partner closest tries to prevent others from joining
ii. Other one freezes benches
1. Don’t bang a coach if he steps out a yard or two TO STOP PLAYERS FROM LEAVING THE BENCH
iii. Get #s
iv. If breaking up fight get in-between them DO NOT RESTRAIN ONE PLAYER
E. Settled Situation
i. Keep yourself between the ball and the players
ii. Try to keep players ball and goal all in peripheral view
iii. Lead has:
1. End line and side/goal lines on his side
2. Goal Crease his side of triangle in front of goal before shot
iv. Trail has:
1. Defensive line side/goal lines on his side and offside on slow roll
2. His side of triangle
3. Shooter after shoot
v. Out of bounds on side line
1. Official making call first says which way ball is going then raises hand
a. If horn or subs come on for regular substitution start beeper
b. No whistle etc.
vi. Out of bounds on shots
1. Team who had a player closest to where the ball came out when it crosses the oob line
vii. Goalies:
1. Allow them to get back in reasonable amount of time
F. Transition
i. Old lead gets the ball coming out of the defensive area
ii. Trail goes to half field
1. Quickly if D has ball, looking back to check for loose ball.
2. Slowly if loose ball, may need to come back
3. Stay ahead of ball – should cross half field before ball does
4. Gets count when the ball first crosses half field unless slow break when Old L has the count.
iii. Out of bounds on side line
1. If transition raise hands first for subs if they are coming drop hands and run to position raise hands again until ready
iv. Dead ball transition
1. Check partner to see if ready when D is clearing
G. Free clear
i. Trail starts ball and gets first count
ii. Lead is in settled position
H. Counts
i. One person
ii. Raise hand and point when team advances in
1. Good habit, never know if partner can see what you see
I. Situations
i. Last 2 mins
ii. Stalling
iii. Other
J. Equipment checks
i. End of quarters
ii. Have a system worked out

[Ballen]

Thanks RILAX!!!

I trust that you copied and pasted this and didn't type the whole thing into the forum post window.

I'm a second year LAX official in Kentucky. The sport is growing quickly here and the need for officials is greater than the supply of experienced players that can officiate. We have some folks in the area that want to officiate and they tend to come in two varieties. Those that have played the game and have never officiated sports and those that have officiated sports but never played the game. That's me.

I'm crossing over from football and basketball. The mechanics and coverage for LAX come pretty naturally, however the rules and nuances of the game are tough as I've never played it and lack a certain feel; do you know what I mean?


I worked a scrimmage yesterday afternoon and I went through a pre-game the went like this:

A. Walked from truck to table across mid-field; bag on shoulder.
B. Put on cleats, stripes, hat and whistle.
C. Chatted with table person; somebody's mom.
D. Tested horn.
E. Called captains to center x. Told 'em to play clean and sportsmanlike. Asked coaches if teams were properly equipped.
F. Didn’t have a coin to flip so I drew an X on my card (piece of card stock with athletic tape wrapped around so that I can peel it off and have a fresh surface for the next game) and had the visitor call "x or other". Flipped it up and let it hit the ground. Home won and chose goal and informed him he had the AP.
G. No line up, they just went to positions and I realized I needed a game ball.
H. Etc, etc.

I'm glad to get a scrimmage under my belt. I've got the season opening game between the defending KY state champs and a team traveling in from another state next Fri. My act will definitely be more polished.

And now that we have a pre-game outline we'll be even more professional.

Thanks.

[RILAX]

Originally posted by Ballen
Thanks RILAX!!!

I trust that you copied and pasted this and didn't type the whole thing into the forum post window.

I'm a second year LAX official in Kentucky. The sport is growing quickly here and the need for officials is greater than the supply of experienced players that can officiate. We have some folks in the area that want to officiate and they tend to come in two varieties. Those that have played the game and have never officiated sports and those that have officiated sports but never played the game. That's me.

I'm crossing over from football and basketball. The mechanics and coverage for LAX come pretty naturally, however the rules and nuances of the game are tough as I've never played it and lack a certain feel; do you know what I mean?


I worked a scrimmage yesterday afternoon and I went through a pre-game the went like this:

A. Walked from truck to table across mid-field; bag on shoulder.
B. Put on cleats, stripes, hat and whistle.
C. Chatted with table person; somebody's mom.
D. Tested horn.
E. Called captains to center x. Told 'em to play clean and sportsmanlike. Asked coaches if teams were properly equipped.
F. Didn’t have a coin to flip so I drew an X on my card (piece of card stock with athletic tape wrapped around so that I can peel it off and have a fresh surface for the next game) and had the visitor call "x or other". Flipped it up and let it hit the ground. Home won and chose goal and informed him he had the AP.
G. No line up, they just went to positions and I realized I needed a game ball.
H. Etc, etc.

I'm glad to get a scrimmage under my belt. I've got the season opening game between the defending KY state champs and a team traveling in from another state next Fri. My act will definitely be more polished.

And now that we have a pre-game outline we'll be even more professional.

Thanks.

First, yes I had a word document with the outline on my computer. Second, are you doing one-man games or do you have a partner? It is a very tough game to do by yourself. The mechanics etc is fairly easy to get, it seems to be a lot like basketball (even though I don’t do that sport) on a really big field. The rest of it you will slowly pick up as you do more games. (Most of the times I realize a team is offside before I get the count done etc.) Noticed a few things in your list:

1) I am not a big fan of putting you gear on at the table area before the game, it takes about the same amount of time to do it at your car.
2) You should get a coin, also you should have a tape measure for stick checks as well. The tape measure should be about ¼” of a inch wide and about 2”x”2 they are fairly cheep and can be used as a coin if you forgot yours.
3) For the line up you should get the teams 5 yards apart and at the very least say these are the 5 yards I want everyone to give the player putting the ball in play.

Even if you don’t get to go though the pre-game with your partner it should give you an idea of the few things to ask him/her to make sure that you are on the same page.

Mostly have fun and ask questions about what does not make sense.

[Snake~eyes]

It also depends on what type of level you're doing. And bring a coin! Flipping a card just looks bad. Also come to the field dressed. You should look prepared and ready to go when you get there. Most importantly have fun!

[Ballen]

Guys,
My post about the pre-game was a bit tongue in cheek. I would never flip anything but a coin for a regularly scheduled game. I have a tape measure. We have lineups, etc.

As I said this was a scrimmage, my partner was late and we were hustling to get the game started on time, as there are no lights at the field we were on. I was hoping you would find humor in my post not alarm or concern for what officials in KY are doing.

Thanks again for sharing your pre-game, it will be helpful. May I share it with my colleagues?

[Ballen]

Guys,
My post about the pre-game was a bit tongue in cheek. I would never flip anything but a coin for a regularly scheduled game. I have a tape measure. We have lineups, etc.

As I said this was a scrimmage, my partner was late and we were hustling to get the game started on time, as there are no lights at the field we were on. I was hoping you would find humor in my post not alarm or concern for what officials in KY are doing.

Thanks again for sharing your pre-game, it will be helpful. May I share it with my colleagues?

[RILAX]

Originally posted by Ballen
Guys,
My post about the pre-game was a bit tongue in cheek. I would never flip anything but a coin for a regularly scheduled game. I have a tape measure. We have lineups, etc.

As I said this was a scrimmage, my partner was late and we were hustling to get the game started on time, as there are no lights at the field we were on. I was hoping you would find humor in my post not alarm or concern for what officials in KY are doing.

Thanks again for sharing your pre-game, it will be helpful. May I share it with my colleagues?

No problem with sharing the outline with other members of your board. Don’t be afraid to change/add/subtract from it.

I did miss the sarcasm in your post. I was mostly concerned that you had to do game by yourself. That is not fun at all.

[loulax]

One suggestions that was made to me for pre-game is always try to do certification with both officials present. That way if there is a problem later on(legally), it is not a me vs. him issue....you are covered by your partner.

Just a thought!

[RILAX]

Originally posted by loulax
One suggestions that was made to me for pre-game is always try to do certification with both officials present. That way if there is a problem later on(legally), it is not a me vs. him issue....you are covered by your partner.

Just a thought!

Good point, what I was trying to say at that point was that the Ref would do the talking and the U would just observe but both are there.

[Snake~eyes]

Two officials being there is a MUST. If you have to work alone because your partner(s) didn't show up then bring both coaches together that way there is a witness!