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Old Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:21am
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They aren't nearly as liberal as they think on social issues, nor nearly as conservative as they think on fiscal issues. Otherwise, they would be voting for candidates closer to the libertarian end of the spectrum.
I think there are a lot more people who are libertarian but either A) don't know it or B) don't vote that way because they are unaware of the great many other people who believe the same as them.

Socially, this country is moving toward the liberal. Toward the accepting. And away from the strict (sometimes religious) viewpoints. There's more "let them do what they want as long as they don't infringe upon my rights" out there taking hold. And to those in the middle, I think for a good chunk of them, this is more important to them than their own fiscal or budgetary views.

Budgetarily, I think a lot of people know that borrowing deeply from our future is bad, conceptually ... but the numbers are so mind-numbingly large that it's just impossible to wrap their head around, so they focus on the more actionable social issues.
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Old Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:34pm
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MD Longhorn.....

Try coming back home.......

Things are left of left here in Maryland.....there is a reason why we call him Owe Malley......however i do agree on your thoughts about being liberal socially and consevatively fiscally, we are a center right country, however personally I do believe that if we continue that way morally we will see a huge moral decline.....go to an inner city basketball game and see how many kids are sitting and playing with their phones during the national anthem....damn that pisses me off !!!!!!!!!
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Old Tue Nov 13, 2012, 04:15pm
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Try coming back home.......

Things are left of left here in Maryland.....there is a reason why we call him Owe Malley......however i do agree on your thoughts about being liberal socially and consevatively fiscally, we are a center right country, however personally I do believe that if we continue that way morally we will see a huge moral decline.....go to an inner city basketball game and see how many kids are sitting and playing with their phones during the national anthem....damn that pisses me off !!!!!!!!!
Took me a minute to figure out the coming home part...

MD doesn't stand for Maryland in my moniker. Never lived in Maryland. I've lived all the heck over, but grew up mostly in Houston, Dallas, or Austin.
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Old Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:51am
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Took me a minute to figure out the coming home part...

MD doesn't stand for Maryland in my moniker. Never lived in Maryland. I've lived all the heck over, but grew up mostly in Houston, Dallas, or Austin.
Sorry MD...from your moniker I assumed you were an ex-Terrapin that moved to the Lone Star State.

That being said, the part of Maryland that I live in would like to take part in the succession movement !!!!!!
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:23pm
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The secession movement... brought to you by the same people who claim that they're the only ones who are "true patriots" and "love America" and that anyone who doesn't share their view isn't a "real American".

I've never quite figured that one out.

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Old Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:10pm
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What is this succession movement you all are talking about and what is it succeeding?
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:37pm
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Spelling mistake... (Hey, I flunked spelling in 3rd grade).
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Old Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:41pm
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What is this succession movement you all are talking about and what is it succeeding?
A petition at I believe whitehouse.gov has been petitioning for Texas' succession from the Union. The petition has crossed the 25,000 signatures within 30 days threshold with by policy means an official review and response from the White House. As over two days ago, the petition has reached over 35,000 signatures. And a few other states have started up their own but haven't reached 25,000 signatures yet.

Growing up in Texas, honestly not surprised about this. Still in a state with over 25,000,000, it's not that hard to get less than one percent who think the state should succeed. I've heard that crap talked about for over a decade.

*EDIT* Seems as though I missed the joke.
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I think there are a lot more people who are libertarian but either A) don't know it or B) don't vote that way because they are unaware of the great many other people who believe the same as them.
I think there are a lot of people who are libertarian on some issues, and hard line on others. Everyone wants to legislate some level of morality, they just all want to pick and choose (including me).
I'm libertarian on a lot of things, but there are a few issues where I see too much societal harm from so-called "victimless" crimes and I cannot go there.
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