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Old Wed Feb 18, 2015, 06:22pm
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PLAY: A 3/3 from the B16 yard line. Player B-68 encroaches, after which B-79 and A-55 each commit DBPFs.

You want to ignore the encroachment & deprive A of a new series?
Yes, the idea being that that's unimportant & can be forgotten about once there are major fouls.
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Old Thu Feb 19, 2015, 08:38am
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Yes, the idea being that that's unimportant & can be forgotten about once there are major fouls.
That's ludicrous on it's face. A new series in the opponent's red zone could well be the difference between winning or losing. Certainly that trumps "major fouls".
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Old Thu Feb 19, 2015, 03:18pm
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That's ludicrous on it's face. A new series in the opponent's red zone could well be the difference between winning or losing. Certainly that trumps "major fouls".
Not necessarily. The 15 yds. are given out for stuff that either compromises safety or sportsmanship, so this'd be a statement that safety & sportsmanship are more important than winning or losing.
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Old Thu Feb 19, 2015, 05:24pm
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I still don't understand why the illegal formation on the kickoff is not live ball. Same as illegal formation on a play from scrimmage.
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Old Thu Feb 19, 2015, 09:13pm
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Because the Fed doesn't want this particular illegal formation play that contains a safety factor in their eyes legally getting off.
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Old Fri Feb 20, 2015, 04:14pm
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Because the Fed doesn't want this particular illegal formation play that contains a safety factor in their eyes legally getting off.
Bingo.
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2015, 09:20pm
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Cool ORRRRRRRRRRRRRR, Think about it this way

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Bingo.
If the ball is never allowed to become live because either team committed an illegal act at or before the kick. Then, by shutting the play down and never allowing the ball to become live, there is absolutely no possibility of repeating a Free Kick.
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Old Wed May 27, 2015, 02:28pm
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I still don't understand why the illegal formation on the kickoff is not live ball. Same as illegal formation on a play from scrimmage.
Starting this year it is.

FREE-KICK FORMATIONS REVISED (6-1-3; 6-1-4 NEW; 6-1 PENALTY): In a revision of the 2014 rule change regarding free-kick formations, the timing of the foul for not having at
least four players on each side of the kicker now occurs when the ball is kicked.

Now, do we shut it down as soon as the ball is kicked, just as we do on an offsides play?
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Old Thu May 28, 2015, 07:28am
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Starting this year it is.

FREE-KICK FORMATIONS REVISED (6-1-3; 6-1-4 NEW; 6-1 PENALTY): In a revision of the 2014 rule change regarding free-kick formations, the timing of the foul for not having at
least four players on each side of the kicker now occurs when the ball is kicked.

Now, do we shut it down as soon as the ball is kicked, just as we do on an offsides encroachment play?
Yes, which is why it's signaled as Encroachment, not Illegal Formation. NFHS doesn't want a second kickoff, which would be one of the options if this were administered as a live-ball foul.
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