Jameis Winston

[ajmc]

Insisting on punishing a player for a situation, BECAUSE of who he is, is just as bad as NOT punishing a player, BECAUSE of who he is. The official involved didn't look like a rookie, and we should presume his working at the level game suggests an ability to deal with varied situations.

If he felt threatened, disrespected, or otherwise violated, he had the tools to deal with any of that at his disposal. It seems only the official and the player knew what was said, or why something was said, and neither seemed to be overly distracted by what was said.

"Much ado about nothing".

[APG]

Doug Rhoads, the ACC's coordinator of officials, said in a statement Sunday:"The center judge's positioning, which was due to the experimental year of having an eighth official, combined with the late substitution and by rule the need to allow the defense to matchup, led to contact between himself and the player. The official believed the contact was incidental and insignificant and did not rise to the level of unsportsmanlike conduct and automatic disqualification."

[HLin NC]

If the Center Judge believed that contact was incidental, he's got bigger issues. Pure and simple, he wussed out. And I don't care what Rut cares about HS officials. The NFL takes a pretty stern view of contacting an official too. So plain and simple, NCAA officials by and large are too worried about hanging on to the conference they are in or moving up to the next one. Conference commissioners are scared of the coaches too.


You've either got the balls to make the call and live with the consequences or you don't from youth league up to the big boys.

[HLin NC]

If it was a penalty at every level, why was no flag thrown and the conference said the official was not offended or put off by the contact?

CYA chicken$#!tz too afraid to bite the hand that feeds them.

[Suudy]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

You've either got the balls to make the call and live with the consequences or you don't from youth league up to the big boys.

Amen. And it seems the bigger the game, the smaller the testes. Bush push being the prime example.

But at least somebody had the cajones in the ND/FSU game to call OPI. So the ACC is batting .500 on big calls.

[APG]

Whether you believe the player should have been ejected or not, it's real easy, sitting from your seat on Saturday, to accuse officials of not having the balls, testes, cojones, fortitude, (insert noun here to denote bravery) to eject (and while no one straight up said it, it's been implied).

Want to discuss the merits of an ejection? Fine...keep it to that.

[Suudy]

Originally Posted by APG

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Whether you believe the player should have been ejected or not, it's real easy, sitting from your seat on Saturday, to accuse officials of not having the balls, testes, cojones, fortitude, (insert noun here to donate bravery) to eject (and while no one straight up said it, it's been implied).

Bah. We have big games at the HS level too (granted, not AS big). And there are pressures there as well. I agree with HL, you gotta have frijoles no matter the level.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Suudy

Bah. We have big games at the HS level too (granted, not AS big). And there are pressures there as well. I agree with HL, you gotta have frijoles no matter the level.

Your big high school game is nothing compared to a national audience....but I digress cause it doesn't matter...

If you want to discuss the merits of whether an ejection is worthy or not, that's fine. Going down the path you and HLN are going...is not.

[HLin NC]

I'm fine with a 15 yarder. There probably wasn't any malicious intent to do harm so no need to eject and no way Mr. Heisman Trophy would get ejected in any event. He was trying to move him out of the way. He knew what he was doing. The CJ was just trying to do his job according to the NCAA rules.

Its just the politics indicative to big time NCAA football that allows this to happen. One level up or down, there is going to be a flag. One level up, a fine also. The NCAA buries their head in the sand, just like knee pads and the restricted area, and tells us all to move along, nothing to see here.

It wouldn't bother me so much but somewhere on a Friday night in the not so distant future some dipstick teenager is going to try the same trick.

Rant over, apologies to TPTB.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

If the Center Judge believed that contact was incidental, he's got bigger issues. Pure and simple, he wussed out. And I don't care what Rut cares about HS officials. The NFL takes a pretty stern view of contacting an official too. So plain and simple, NCAA officials by and large are too worried about hanging on to the conference they are in or moving up to the next one. Conference commissioners are scared of the coaches too.


You've either got the balls to make the call and live with the consequences or you don't from youth league up to the big boys.

I am going to guess, that he got paid for that game more than you or I would make an entire season of varsity football. He obviously proved his worth to someone, because he was on National TV and you and I were sitting at home commenting on the situation.

Peace

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ajmc

Insisting on punishing a player for a situation, BECAUSE of who he is, is just as bad as NOT punishing a player, BECAUSE of who he is. The official involved didn't look like a rookie, and we should presume his working at the level game suggests an ability to deal with varied situations.

If he felt threatened, disrespected, or otherwise violated, he had the tools to deal with any of that at his disposal. It seems only the official and the player knew what was said, or why something was said, and neither seemed to be overly distracted by what was said.

"Much ado about nothing".

We get accused all the time of what we do based on who is involved and in the comments we have people commenting about "who" was involved rather than what we would do if this happen to anyone else. IT is actually sad and I am saddened by our community with the tone of these comments here and in other places.

Peace