New Fed rules up

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Adam

What difference would #1 make?

If there's 10 on the field and 4 in the backfield, it's currently a foul in NFHS football, but NOT in NCAA.

Why should A/K be penalized for not having enough players on the field?

Besides, NCAA rules makes the wings' job easier. They count the backfield. They don't need to know there are 11 on the field in order to know whether the formation is legal.

[cmathews]

yep I agree the 4 in the backfield thing is much easier.. I also wish they would go more to NCAA penalty enforcement spots, in that fouls that occur behind the LOS holding etc are enforced from the previous spot...as it stands now, a hold in the backfield can end up being a 20 yard penalty..

[Rich]

Originally Posted by cmathews

yep I agree the 4 in the backfield thing is much easier.. I also wish they would go more to NCAA penalty enforcement spots, in that fouls that occur behind the LOS holding etc are enforced from the previous spot...as it stands now, a hold in the backfield can end up being a 20 yard penalty..

It was in my list of 5 changes I wanted to see. Not surprised it didn't make the cut. Disappointed, sure, not surprised.

[BoBo]

So they have defined "targeting" and say its a foul, what is the penalty??

I do not see what and how it will be enforced.

I will assume 15 yards, will there be a disqualification as well?

[Insane Blue]

Originally Posted by BoBo

So they have defined "targeting" and say its a foul, what is the penalty??

I do not see what and how it will be enforced.

I will assume 15 yards, will there be a disqualification as well?

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In an effort to reduce contact above the shoulders and lessen the risk of injury in high school football, the National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS) Football Rules Committee developed a definition for “targeting,” which will be penalized as illegal personal contact.

[BoBo]

So basically a personal foul 15 yards. Nothing like the NCAA rule with an additional penalty.

I would be willing many officials were already calling a small majority of these fouls in the past as personal fouls, UNR.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BoBo

So basically a personal foul 15 yards. Nothing like the NCAA rule with an additional penalty.

And the NCAA is backing off that additional penalty by all accounts that I have heard and read about.

Originally Posted by BoBo

I would be willing many officials were already calling a small majority of these fouls in the past as personal fouls, UNR.

Yes, but the rule did not make it clear to the participants this should be called. Then again coaches would complain about this and it was not a specific rule. Then again I do not see many "targeting" type plays at the HS level. I did not see any last year in any game.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And the NCAA is backing off that additional penalty by all accounts that I have heard and read about.

Based on what I read earlier today: Only if the foul is overturned by replay and only if there's not another associated foul (like roughing the passer with a targeting element). If it's not a foul, there's no reason to keep the 15 yard penalty. I think that's a *good* change.

[voiceoflg]

Originally Posted by Rich

Based on what I read earlier today: Only if the foul is overturned by replay and only if there's not another associated foul (like roughing the passer with a targeting element). If it's not a foul, there's no reason to keep the 15 yard penalty. I think that's a *good* change.

The thing is, how many ejections were overturned due to replay? This season in NCAA, if the change is implemented, the 15 yard penalty will also be overturned by replay.

There is no replay in NFHS. So this will be interesting to see how everyone...officials, coaches and players...adjust to this new rule. And how many broadcasters get it wrong.