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JRutledge · #16 (**permalink**) Thu Aug 07, 2003, 09:20pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

See comment by "Old Ref" in bottom post on this page. He is one of 10 assigners,who he says,blackballed Mr. Graham and the other 3 officials that worked in the league.I believe him. If you don't,that is your perogative.

You would. The internet is an amazing and very interesting place.

Peace

telegrahams · #17 (**permalink**) Thu Aug 07, 2003, 09:41pm

"Knowing the other and knowing oneself,
In one hundred battles no danger.
Not Knowing the other and knowing oneself,
One victory for one loss.
Not knowing the other and not knowing oneself,
In every battle certain defeat."

Thank you for your insight.
All comments are greatly appreciated.

jemoore · #18 (**permalink**) Thu Aug 07, 2003, 10:01pm

Below is the full text of Rich Grahams most recent post that he showed his cowardly ways by blocking responses and ultimately deleting it in minutes.

Be advised that people who were at the trial agreed the judge did ask two boys to leave the courtroom. However, there were only two boys, both wearing Palos football jersies. They were brought there by their parents, which was wholly inappropriate. It's so sad when parents use their own kids as tools of manipulation. They were asked to leave by the judge because the testimony of the assaulted official and the other official would be laced with expletives. This would happen only in the retelling of what convicted criminal coach Louis Trench said the day of the incident, on the field, in front of hundreds of children. The two officials testifying were required by their subpoenas to retell the story verbatum. By the way, the judge admonished the parent of the boys for "dressing them up and bringing them to court", telling them it was inappropriate.

Again, Rich Graham is using pebbles of fact to weave his lies and deceipt. He is lying outright and committing lies of omission. However, this is one post he can't delete and then scamper away under his rock.

RICH GRAHAMS POST:
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telegrahams
Member

Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 3

Just a note to those that observed the trial,

It occurred to me way back when this whole affair started that it was more than just about officials being harassed. It was more than people being fed up with the antics of certain individuals on both sides of this quibble. It was about egos, Egos of certain coaches and egos of certain officials. It was about blind loyalty on both sides. It became a war of words and a battle for support on both sides. It became an extremely ugly commotion that could have been avoided and certainly should have never reached our court system.

During the trial there were children present in the courtroom, both past and present players that participated in the Southwest Midget Football League. At some point during the trial the judge ordered the children out of the courtroom because there was foul language being used by the official that brought the charges against the coaches.

At what point did we forget that this is only a kidÂ’s game, and why did it take someone outside of our football fraternity to remind us of that?

Thank you Your Honor,

3rd year football official IHSA
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telegrahams · #19 (**permalink**) Thu Aug 07, 2003, 10:49pm

:-D

telegrahams · #20 (**permalink**) Thu Aug 07, 2003, 10:50pm

cowbyfan1 · #21 (**permalink**) Fri Aug 08, 2003, 05:18am

Here is a good one.. The coaches of a baseball league I call voted the manager of a "trouble" team out of the league after him and his son (who was a player) assaulted an official. The league tossed the player and then the coaches got together and said get rid of the manager as well. Too bad they could not do the same with this egomaniac coach as well.
Also too bad after the court of law said the coach is guilty that the league is STILL backing this coach. I do not know how facilities are in that area but hopefully someone could not get another league going and try to put these idiots out of business.

cowbyfan1 · #22 (**permalink**) Mon Aug 11, 2003, 03:07am

There was a motion at the last meeting to suspend the coach from the league for life. No word yet on the outcome or if there will even be a vote taken on the subject next month.

We pray that there will be a vote and that he is history ,but, based off everything that is well known about this story and league it is 99% certain the egos that be won't let it happen.