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johnnyg08 Sun Feb 03, 2013 08:28pm

EJ in the Superbowl
 
29 shoves an official and they keep him in the game. Unreal.

JRutledge Sun Feb 03, 2013 08:32pm

Ejection on shoves? Really?

Peace

grunewar Sun Feb 03, 2013 08:37pm

There's a lot of emotion in the game. Much pushing and shoving. The officials are letting em play.

RMR Sun Feb 03, 2013 09:43pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 876711)
Ejection on shoves? Really?

Peace

For shoving an official? Yes, really.

johnnyg08 Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:00pm

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Originally Posted by RMR (Post 876715)
For shoving an official? Yes, really.


You shove an official, you're EJ'd in my game.

What sports do you get to shove an official?

I don't care what game it is...shove an official, you're done for the day.

JRutledge Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:03pm

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Originally Posted by johnnyg08 (Post 876717)
You shove an official, you're EJ'd in my game.

What sports do you get to shove an official?

I don't care what game it is...shove an official, you're done for the day.

Not sure I saw the situation you are talking about, but I agree. But I also consider what happens in the middle of pushing matches to be very different as well. And obviously so did the officials working the game. And the last time I checked, none of us here are at that level so it really does not matter what we do in our games.

Peace

johnnyg08 Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:12pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 876718)
Not sure I saw the situation you are talking about, but I agree. But I also consider what happens in the middle of pushing matches to be very different as well. And obviously so did the officials working the game. And the last time I checked, none of us here are at that level so it really does not matter what we do in our games.

Peace

Except that's what this forum is about. What happens in our games and in games that we see. So it matters quite a bit.

JRutledge Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:22pm

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Originally Posted by johnnyg08 (Post 876721)
Except that's what this forum is about. What happens in our games and in games that we see. So it matters quite a bit.

My comments are not about the nature of the forum. I get why we discuss these things, but someone with a lot more experience at that level does not make that call or did not see it the way you did and there you go. Just like I am sure some wanted a foul on the 4th down play and there was one not called.

Peace

RMR Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:35pm

Here is the play. It wasn't in the middle of a scrum, he knew what he was doing.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18dj...f/original.gif

JRutledge Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:46pm

I have no problem with that as he knows what was said and how his reaction took place. These things do not get called in a bubble.

Peace

RMR Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:48pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 876733)
I have no problem with that as he knows what was said and how his reaction took place. These things do not get called in a bubble.

Peace

29's behavior is acceptable?

JRutledge Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:53pm

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Originally Posted by RMR (Post 876735)
29's behavior is acceptable?

You are missing the point. This is why at the levels most of us likely work, you do not go in at all trying to put your hands on officials. Because people are getting pushed and they push whomever is in their face. My point is the officials knows better than you or me if the guy was just pushing guys away from him and accidentally pushed the official. High levels have different standards and certainly have different standards of contact or these situations than we would at the HS level. That is just a fact.

Peace

Multiple Sports Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:02am

Rut -

You nailed this on the head..

At that level it is like the WWE......

Refs know it, unless player goes after official no ejections especially in SB

JRutledge Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:28am

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Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 876738)
Rut -

You nailed this on the head..

At that level it is like the WWE......

Refs know it, unless player goes after official no ejections especially in SB

I am not saying that the official was right or wrong. Just saying that he has the bigger picture along with previous training and philosophy in the league about what is acceptable or not. And without knowing what words came out of the player's mouth or what other interaction that player had with the opponent, then we have no idea why this guy was not ejected. And the official did make contact with about 3 players which is certainly something we might not be doing at the HS level for sure. I am sure the league will have some opinion about this and will tell the staff if this guy should have been considered for an ejection or not. Or a fine will come down on the player as well.

Peace

AremRed Mon Feb 04, 2013 01:08am

What about the example this shows thousands (minimum) of youth players, who see this happen and no penalty assessed? I agree about the officials knowing what is incidental and what is intentional, but players have been ejected for far less contact. Despite what I think about lack of ejection, I expect a fine to be forthcoming.


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