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bisonlj Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:21pm

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Originally Posted by bossman72 (Post 872358)
Not sure if this would work or not:

Have one universal email address / login for officials and have it act like a college recruiter, basically. All the schools in a conference share their film with the "officials" login, so all officials can use that login to see their games. You wouldn't get the fancy functionality, but you can at least download the game and mess with it that way. Better than the DVD system we have now.

Would that work?

You don't need to do that. A school can create a recruiter link and send it to one member of your crew. With that link anyone can create their own free login to view that particular video. If you already have a Hudl account you can use it to access the video. You are correct though...no major functionality other than viewing and downloading the entire game. You can also have the school create a download link and send that you to. You will download one WMV vile and would have to use your own software to slice and dice plays.

Brad Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:54am

You guys that "slice and dice" video —*what are you using? Just curious what you've found to be the easiest tool to extract plays.

Any of you doing things to edit the video as well — like be able to draw arrows, pause the video, highlight a circle around a player, etc.?

JRutledge Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:36am

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Originally Posted by Brad (Post 872590)
You guys that "slice and dice" video —*what are you using? Just curious what you've found to be the easiest tool to extract plays.

Any of you doing things to edit the video as well — like be able to draw arrows, pause the video, highlight a circle around a player, etc.?

At this point I used Windows Movie Maker. I had to download a newer version that had some other features, but that is what I use now.

Peace

HLin NC Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:27pm

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—*what are you using?
Transfer Quicktime (.mp4 or .mov) file via iTunes from laptop to the Replay Booth app. Replay Booth allows you to either bookmark (pre-set for 10 second clips but can be adjusted) or AB loop buttons that you can cut and add to playlists or e-mail out. You can telestrate live video play but it won't save to the clip.

Hudl downloads are already in the format. I did have an issue this week with a couple of schools downloads being corrupted with "a bad public atom" which would not open in Quicktime or Real but VLC didn't have a problem with it and the files also transferred to iPad and opened with no problem so its only a problem with certain players.

The hard part is converting the DVD's received into a usable format. Takes lots of time and space. The "dinosaurs" that want a DVD copied for them are going to have to start giving me a flash drive. TV's now are allowing you to plug and play direct so there is no need to burn DVD's to watch.

I purchased the AVS suite several years ago with Video Editor, Video Converter, and DVD Copy- I think it was like $36 or $39 online. Its clunky but gets the job done. I'm sure there are better, faster, easier to use. Its just what I'm used to.

jchamp Fri Jan 18, 2013 07:07pm

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Originally Posted by Brad (Post 872590)
You guys that "slice and dice" video —*what are you using? Just curious what you've found to be the easiest tool to extract plays.

Any of you doing things to edit the video as well — like be able to draw arrows, pause the video, highlight a circle around a player, etc.?

VLC and Handbrake both have functionality to convert video, ... Handbrake requires less command line experience, and is a much easier one to use in general.

I used to use a program called Multiquence back in the day, I had bought a license that removed the shareware limitations on it, but that was back in 2002.
I've heard good reviews about Nero Vision, which I think is now Nero Video, iMovie, and Windows Movie Maker.
My drug of choice is Lightworks, which had a strange learning curve due to some bizarre UI choices the developers made, but I had to use it for another project I was on a couple years ago.

If you have the time to learn the interface, I would recommend Lightworks. Otherwise any of the others can do what you need.

Rich Sat Jan 19, 2013 02:04am

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Originally Posted by jchamp (Post 873051)
VLC and Handbrake both have functionality to convert video, ... Handbrake requires less command line experience, and is a much easier one to use in general.

I used to use a program called Multiquence back in the day, I had bought a license that removed the shareware limitations on it, but that was back in 2002.
I've heard good reviews about Nero Vision, which I think is now Nero Video, iMovie, and Windows Movie Maker.
My drug of choice is Lightworks, which had a strange learning curve due to some bizarre UI choices the developers made, but I had to use it for another project I was on a couple years ago.

If you have the time to learn the interface, I would recommend Lightworks. Otherwise any of the others can do what you need.

I use Handbrake myself -- very familiar with the Mac version of it. Free and works extremely well.

jeschmit Sun Jan 20, 2013 01:18am

I'll chalk up another vote to using Handbrake. Very easy to convert videos with that program.

I also use MPEGStreamclip to clip plays on my Mac. It allows you to save your clips in almost every file type out there... and it's free.

I've also dabbled in VLC, but I like the MPEGStreamclip program as it allows you to fast forward the video a lot easier, and you can also rip DVDs onto your computer in a movie file (this allows me to upload my games onto my iDevice).

Finally, I use iMovie to edit, add text, add transitions and slo-mo replay to my clips.

Brad Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:58pm

Cool ... good tips, jeschmit. Thanks.

bisonlj Sun Jan 20, 2013 02:16pm

Although Hudl was built by coaches for coaches it generally works well for officials as well. Are there any feature changes Hudl could make that you think would be better for officials? What is it missing for us?

JRutledge Sun Jan 20, 2013 04:02pm

The only way this works better for officials is to have someone else taping the video. I could see most plays when I used this program. The only problem was the video skills of the person taping and how long they showed us in the picture. Otherwise not much the program can do better.

Peace

raider Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:41pm

We use it for evaluations and trainign
 
This year we started using HUDL for our officials. We have 4 HD cameras and dispatch a rookie official to video the game. He takes a wide angle so as to get all officials on the screen. Each time the umpire spots the ball, he stops and starts the video (as well as some other times). This gives us the HUDL plays. That way we also get the between play activity by the crew. We have 3rd party retired officials review the HUDL video and do their evaluation from that. They make their comments and tie in the specific plays.
We also use it for trainnig purposes. I am also one of our state observers and I video any game I observe the same way. Then my report cites specific plays.
Very hard to argue with the video. Most guys appreciate the feedback. Some, who think they are great, don't appreciate it being pointed out that they are not. Hopefully they get on board or leave.

Dave


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