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Old Sat Jul 12, 2003, 03:08pm
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Hi guys...

Football season is fast approaching, and its a wonderful thing. I know there has probably been a good bit of discussion on here about PSK. However, I'm not sure if this has been discussed or not. Thought I would run it by you guys.


Here is the play.

K has the ball at R's 30 yard line. Its 4th and 3 to go. They are attempting a field goal. The kick is up and past the expanded neutral zone. While its in the air and past the neutral zone there is a foul by R in R's endzone. Lets just say it was a clip. Anyway, the ball sails wide to the right and is not succesful. The ball did, however, break the plane of the endzone.

Now, the way I understand PSK, this would indeed be a PSK play. The PSK spot would be the 20 yarline of R, since it would be a touchback. The foul by R in their own endzone is BEHIND the PSK spot, therefore making this a safety. I think I got all this correctly.

Now, here is my question. What if this same scenario happened in overtime???? That would be a huge mess. We do our overtimes by giving each team a turn from the 10 yardine going in. I know that OT is done differently allover the country. But this just seems strange to me.

Any thoughts would be welcomed.


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Old Sat Jul 12, 2003, 08:26pm
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If you can tell me how it's possible for a clip to occur in the EZ before a FGA ends, I'll tell you the answer!
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Old Sat Jul 12, 2003, 09:30pm
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Ok, tell ya what....

How about we make it the 10 yardline... and everything remains the same on that play?

Now, we have a muffed snap or whatever... and there is indeed a clip in the endzone as I mentioned before.

Everything else remains the same.

Now, please, share your wisdom.


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Old Mon Jul 14, 2003, 09:42am
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Re: Ok, tell ya what....

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Now, here is my question. What if this same scenario happened in overtime???? That would be a huge mess. We do our overtimes by giving each team a turn from the 10 yardine going in. I know that OT is done differently allover the country. But this just seems strange to me.
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How about we make it the 10 yardline... and everything remains the same on that play?

Now, we have a muffed snap or whatever... and there is indeed a clip in the endzone as I mentioned before.

Everything else remains the same.

Now, please, share your wisdom.


Dr.Moore
Not a problem at all. Don't know if you have the 2003 Rule Book. It has in "Comments on the Rules" the rules for "resolving tied games" and that is what I refer to in this answer.

Rule 5-1-1 states "If the defensive team gains possession, the ball becomes dead immediately and the offensive team's series of downs is ended."

Your question is a good one because the foul cannot go unpunished. My answer would be to penalize the defensive team at the start of their offensive series.

I have to agree the chances of seeing this play are small. But, never say never.
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