Riddle me this

[jTheUmp]

Horsecollar tackles are allowed on runners inside the tackle box in NCAA. (I never understood the logic behind this exception... if it's a safety foul outside the tackle box, surely it's still a safety foul inside the tackle box).

There is no such thing as a tackle box in FED, and horsecollar tackles are not allowed anywhere.

[Art N]

Thanks. "That 'splains it, Lucy!"
The only "logic" I can think of for allowing it in the tackle box in NCAA is that maybe they felt the runners were not really up to speed yet in that area, like they could be down field. Only a guess on my part.

[Forksref]

Originally Posted by Art N

Thanks. "That 'splains it, Lucy!"
The only "logic" I can think of for allowing it in the tackle box in NCAA is that maybe they felt the runners were not really up to speed yet in that area, like they could be down field. Only a guess on my part.

I think the rule is not up to speed.

[Canned Heat]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

Horsecollar tackles are allowed on runners inside the tackle box in NCAA. (I never understood the logic behind this exception... if it's a safety foul outside the tackle box, surely it's still a safety foul inside the tackle box).

There is no such thing as a tackle box in FED, and horsecollar tackles are not allowed anywhere.

In all honesty, I never understood the sense of HC penalty to begin with. I think it's even more of a sham having designated "legal areas", to boot in NCAA/Pro.

Speaking of tackle box, I'd kick myself if I didn't mention I actually had a JV coach telling his QB to "throw it away" a few weeks back when he was getting pressured and risked a sack like 15 yards behind the LOS after a shotgun snap over the kid's head. They ended up punting on the next play on a 4th and 30+ after all was said and done.

"But sir....he was out of the tackle box!" Good stuff.

[maven]

Originally Posted by Canned Heat

"But sir....he was out of the tackle box!" Good stuff.

They ALWAYS say that, and I have to stifle a snicker and a sarcastic response.

[Canned Heat]

Originally Posted by maven

They ALWAYS say that, and I have to stifle a snicker and a sarcastic response.

I actually had to compose myself and try not to smile or make him think I wasn't taking him seriously when he wanted to ask me about it....I didn't want to light any more of his fuse, but it was something else. I've had him for probably 6 or 7 years now and still to this day I am not sure if he had a brain freeze or what. The cherry on top was a guy up in the stands howling about it for the next whole series plays....likely the QB's dad if I had to guess.

The quarter ended after the punt, I think, and I discussed with him quickly only to find that the crew the prior week let his QB get away with it the week prior on the same kind of play.

You can't pick your family...or the guys that worked the week prior.

[Adam]

I never believe the "The last crew let us" line. It may or may not be true, but it's usually not.

[maven]

Originally Posted by Adam

I never believe the "The last crew let us" line. It may or may not be true, but it's usually not.

I will sometimes ask who it was. And then, sometimes, I believe it.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by maven

I will sometimes ask who it was. And then, sometimes, I believe it.

hahahaha...perfect!

[Canned Heat]

Originally Posted by Adam

I never believe the "The last crew let us" line. It may or may not be true, but it's usually not.

It is with this guy....and you're right, because the coach should know full well that wasn't the correct ruling. There's only a handful of crews that work at this school doing their sub levels, and I know them all and it is well documented. One of the assistants there is a very good official of a few sports and even told me how that whole mess all went down.

I believe he may longer be officiatinbg after he got picked up for his 4th or 5th OWI last year. He's got bigger problems than making some bad calls, and I'm not big on bashing anyone, better yet another official, just hoping he gets his shizzle together before him or someone else end up on the wrong side of the topsoil.

[CT1]

Originally Posted by Canned Heat

I believe he may longer be officiatinbg after he got picked up for his 4th or 5th OWI last year.

Officiating While Intoxicated?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

Horsecollar tackles are allowed on runners inside the tackle box in NCAA. (I never understood the logic behind this exception... if it's a safety foul outside the tackle box, surely it's still a safety foul inside the tackle box).

There is no such thing as a tackle box in FED, and horsecollar tackles are not allowed anywhere.

TBH, the reason a horse collar tackle is dangerous is that if it occurs while the runner is at high speed, it buckles the knees. At low speed (more likely behind the line inside the tackle box), it's just another tackle.