The Official Forum

The Official Forum (https://forum.officiating.com/)
-   Football (https://forum.officiating.com/football/)
-   -   Going too Far? (https://forum.officiating.com/football/92753-going-too-far.html)

Forksref Mon Oct 29, 2012 09:23am

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyg08 (Post 860004)
I think people are making millions of dollars selling pink stuff.

The money spent on the pink stuff should go straight to cancer research or straight to people's medical bills. We're well aware of breast cancer, in fact, I don't think we can be any more aware. There's no longer a need to raise awareness.



It has been found that some of the companies that sell items with the pink ribbon, etc. on the packaging who promise to donate so much to cancer research are not following through on their promises. It has become a scam in some cases.

MD Longhorn Mon Oct 29, 2012 09:53am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie (Post 860362)
That's not a uniform, its NASCAR or minor league baseball!

You're using "uniform" as an adverb (or a descriptive term, anyway). I'm using it as a noun. Your crew may be uniform (as you would be if you all went out in the same onesie), but you aren't wearing THE uniform.

You guys do whatever you want. I don't see how me wearing or not wearing pink furthers or detracts from the issue of breast cancer. If I'm going to make a donation, I'd rather make one straight up than buy something where a portion of the proceeds goes there and what I bought is otherwise useless.

Well, actually, since you asked.

If they weren't wearing pink, this thread would not exist.
And breast cancer has been mentioned several times already. The mere existence of this thread and the fact that we might talk about pink (and thus think of breast cancer research) on the field has accomplished their goal.

Rich Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:20am

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 860454)
Well, actually, since you asked.

If they weren't wearing pink, this thread would not exist.
And breast cancer has been mentioned several times already. The mere existence of this thread and the fact that we might talk about pink (and thus think of breast cancer research) on the field has accomplished their goal.

On top of this:

I had a crew member ask me about this a couple of years ago. I thought about it for some time. Finally, I said, "Sure, we'll do this, but I'll only do it if we do it as a crew and put together a donation at the end of the season."

One of my crew members doesn't contribute. I don't pressure him -- rather, I quietly contribute his share myself. I remember what it was like when my boss tried pressuring me to give to the United Way years ago. I didn't and it was uncomfortable.

Without the conversation of wearing pink, I doubt any of this happens. Next year I plan to take this association-wide (I'll pay for the whistles/lanyards from my association budget) and see how much money we can raise for the BCRF.

Adam Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:05am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 860456)
On top of this:

I had a crew member ask me about this a couple of years ago. I thought about it for some time. Finally, I said, "Sure, we'll do this, but I'll only do it if we do it as a crew and put together a donation at the end of the season."

One of my crew members doesn't contribute. I don't pressure him -- rather, I quietly contribute his share myself. I remember what it was like when my boss tried pressuring me to give to the United Way years ago. I didn't and it was uncomfortable.

Without the conversation of wearing pink, I doubt any of this happens. Next year I plan to take this association-wide (I'll pay for the whistles/lanyards from my association budget) and see how much money we can raise for the BCRF.

I know a few FB officials who wear pink. Most of the basketball officials do it locally, and we have a drive to donate. Before basketball games, we have the PA announcers explain why we're wearing pink (sometimes necessary as the shirts some folks wear just look like a bad day in the laundry). I change my shoe strings and use a pink whistle.

I haven't seen such a concerted drive in FB here locally, though. But it was my first season and I missed a couple of meetings.

hawk65 Mon Oct 29, 2012 02:44pm

What would you do? On a night when many players are wearing many pink items, you saw a player wearing several fluorescent lime green items. You approach him and tell him he can't wear those items and he responds, "My dad died three days ago of pancreatic cancer. If those players can wear pink to raise awareness of breast cancer, I am going to wear this color to raise awareness of pancreatic cancer!"

JugglingReferee Mon Oct 29, 2012 03:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawk65 (Post 860497)
What would you do? On a night when many players are wearing many pink items, you saw a player wearing several fluorescent lime green items. You approach him and tell him he can't wear those items and he responds, "My dad died three days ago of pancreatic cancer. If those players can wear pink to raise awareness of breast cancer, I am going to wear this color to raise awareness of pancreatic cancer!"

I doubt I would even approach him. But then again, we have fewer uniform rules in Canada.

Rich Mon Oct 29, 2012 03:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawk65 (Post 860497)
What would you do? On a night when many players are wearing many pink items, you saw a player wearing several fluorescent lime green items. You approach him and tell him he can't wear those items and he responds, "My dad died three days ago of pancreatic cancer. If those players can wear pink to raise awareness of breast cancer, I am going to wear this color to raise awareness of pancreatic cancer!"


I'd ask him if he had something I could wear, too.

MD Longhorn Mon Oct 29, 2012 03:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawk65 (Post 860497)
What would you do? On a night when many players are wearing many pink items, you saw a player wearing several fluorescent lime green items. You approach him and tell him he can't wear those items and he responds, "My dad died three days ago of pancreatic cancer. If those players can wear pink to raise awareness of breast cancer, I am going to wear this color to raise awareness of pancreatic cancer!"

One player dressing different for some reason is completely different from an entire team, UNIFORMLY, dressing for that same reason.

CT1 Mon Oct 29, 2012 05:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawk65 (Post 860497)
What would you do? On a night when many players are wearing many pink items, you saw a player wearing several fluorescent lime green items. You approach him and tell him he can't wear those items and he responds, "My dad died three days ago of pancreatic cancer. If those players can wear pink to raise awareness of breast cancer, I am going to wear this color to raise awareness of pancreatic cancer!"

Why would this be a problem, as long as he's wearing the items in the proscribed manner?

ajmc Mon Oct 29, 2012 06:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawk65 (Post 860497)
What would you do? On a night when many players are wearing many pink items, you saw a player wearing several fluorescent lime green items. You approach him and tell him he can't wear those items and he responds, "My dad died three days ago of pancreatic cancer. If those players can wear pink to raise awareness of breast cancer, I am going to wear this color to raise awareness of pancreatic cancer!"

This is the EXACT reason the rule makers clamped down on what is permissable to wear. It's real easy for smart officials; either it's a plain white towel or an absorbent sweatbad worn as specified. Nothing else is allowed, unless someone with the proper authority authorizes an exception.

The rule makers, thankfully realized, that the American teenager can come up with far more reasons for violating rules than rule makers can think to specifically prevent, so what is allowable is a really short list. At some point we all have to learn that life isn't always exactly fair, and sometimes it's "us" who have to make the adjustment.

Of course the player can wear whatever his team allows on the sideline, we only control on what is allowable within the game. There are always other venues to highlight a worthy cause.

Rich Mon Oct 29, 2012 06:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajmc (Post 860546)
This is the EXACT reason the rule makers clamped down on what is permissable to wear. It's real easy for smart officials; either it's a plain white towel or an absorbent sweatbad worn as specified. Nothing else is allowed, unless someone with the proper authority authorizes an exception.

The rule makers, thankfully realized, that the American teenager can come up with far more reasons for violating rules than rule makers can think to specifically prevent, so what is allowable is a really short list. At some point we all have to learn that life isn't always exactly fair, and sometimes it's "us" who have to make the adjustment.

Of course the player can wear whatever his team allows on the sideline, we only control on what is allowable within the game. There are always other venues to highlight a worthy cause.

Eh, it just doesn't matter that much to me. Don't see it as some kind of crisis.

HLin NC Mon Oct 29, 2012 07:26pm

There is no rule for sweatband colors, just towels. We have no standing to tell him he can't wear snot green shoes, socks, undershirt, chin strap, mouthpiece, handwarmer, or shoelaces.

Is it all overdone- yes. Do I care- no.

Adam Mon Oct 29, 2012 07:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by HLin NC (Post 860555)
There is no rule for sweatband colors, just towels. We have no standing to tell him he can't wear snot green shoes, socks, undershirt, chin strap, mouthpiece, handwarmer, or shoelaces.

Is it all overdone- yes. Do I care- no.

This.

Texas Aggie Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:47pm

Quote:

The mere existence of this thread and the fact that we might talk about pink (and thus think of breast cancer research) on the field has accomplished their goal.
Exactly what goal has it accomplished? Over-saturation runs the risk of turning people off this stuff. And don't forget the black eye Koman got and still has when it was revealed they support a particular organization.

JRutledge Tue Oct 30, 2012 01:20am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie (Post 860575)
Exactly what goal has it accomplished? Over-saturation runs the risk of turning people off this stuff. And don't forget the black eye Koman got and still has when it was revealed they support a particular organization.

You cannot really be asking this question. It has obviously made the color pink synonymous with the disease. And it has certainly raised awareness with the average public of research and getting tested for the signs of the disease. I get that this is such a manly sport and it bothers some to use sport to raise awareness for things (God Forbid) but does it really matter if for one day the crew uses a color not yellow for something? After all we have changed bean bag colors in the last couple of years and I do not see the tragedy in that fact either. Just the fact that some have objected to this the way they have objected makes me really support these things now. Yes I agree there are some things that are overkill, but I would do anything to have my aunt back if there was awareness there is now. If it saves someone from early detection I am happy. I do not want anyone to go through what my family went through and my two cousins in losing their mother to that disease. Is it really that bad to deal with and now it will be over when November comes?

Peace


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:59pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1