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What's the NFL penalty for OPI - just 5 yards? No LOD?

10 yards, no LOD.

I think they only marked off 5 last night on the Lions during the final drive.

They were having some issues with PI last night...

According to the official play-by-play, the ball was at the 32 prior to the penalty...then the ball was snapped on the 42 after the OPI penalty.

It should be a loss of down... but that's another topic. ;)

Hell, it should be loss of ball. And at one time, it was.

I disagree. Loss of possession is way too much of a penalty.

No...Fed can keep that one for themselves. :)

When you interfere with the other team's player's opp'ty to catch the ball -- whether they were the passing team or you were -- why shouldn't the penalty be at least as if the fouled player had caught the ball there?

The justification at lower levels for an enforcement from the previous spot is that the players don't catch as well, so the rules don't presume the fouled player would've caught the ball.

The offence has the advantage of knowing the play. That is their advantage and it should remain.

+1

I agree. If I was king, the first thing I'd remove from NFHS rules is the LOD on OPI. Well, it would be in the Top 10 anyway.

I don't understand what you mean. Because they know the play, shouldn't they be even more liable in some way for PI? How does the advantage of knowing the play mitigate their player's responsibility to not interfere with an opponent's attempt at a catch? A defender might have his back to the ball and not know a pass is on the way.

The NFL doesn't have a LOD for OPI. From what I suspect, neither does the NCAA. And neither do all codes of Canadian football. Maybe, just maybe, the Fed is the odd man out.

They are, but that doesn't make them wrong. NCAA got rid of the LOD for OPI in the 1980s IIRC. NFL I don't remember -- might've gotten rid of it about 15 yrs. earlier or maybe went straight from loss of ball to the distance penalty with no LOD. I believe it was loss of ball in Canadian football until some time in the 1960s, as with other loose ball interference.

So for 50+ years, the Fed hasn't believed that removing the LOD is a good thing. Good for them for sticking to their guns!

Meanwhile NCAA has gone back & forth on the enforcement spot against the defense. I don't remember what it was at first, but it was either, or soon became, from the previous spot. Then it was changed to spot of the foul. Then back to previous spot. Fed inherited the penalty from the first time it was previous spot, and kept it.

It is a different game. I honestly hope you are not using what Canada does as any gauge for what goes on in the US? Considering that there are a few hundred rules differences already, not seeing the big deal if they keep their rules unique. NCAA and the NFL has an entertainment value to them that the NF games are not supposed to have. If the NF changed the rule I would think it was a mistake, but then again it is not that big of a deal.

Peace

The offense takes it in the shorts in so many ways when they commit fouls in NFHS football that it would surprise me if they did change this.

If they change this, it is not a tragedy at all. I could live with it and this is hardly a big deal. But to say that other levels do something is not the reason this will be changed. If that is the case the NF has a lot of rules to change because most of their rules do not reflect applications from other states and I do not see many rules changing anytime soon.

Peace

I think the penalty in FED should be loss of down and loss of first-born child. The offense gets off too easily here.