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surehands Tue Aug 07, 2012 02:58pm

Ready to play or snap?
 
4th and 10 on k's 30 yd line. K97 punts as his team is flagged for illegal formation and the kick becomes dead in bounds. The penalty is accepted. What is thge sueceding spot and clock?

JugglingReferee Tue Aug 07, 2012 03:11pm

Canadian Ruling
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by surehands (Post 851306)
4th and 10 on k's 30 yd line. K97 punts as his team is flagged for illegal formation and the kick becomes dead in bounds. The penalty is accepted. What is the succeeding spot and clock?

CANADIAN RULING:

4D/15 @ A-25.

If before the 3-minute warning, clock starts on the RFP.
If after the 3-minute warning, clock starts on the snap.

bcl1127 Tue Aug 07, 2012 04:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by surehands (Post 851306)
4th and 10 on k's 30 yd line. K97 punts as his team is flagged for illegal formation and the kick becomes dead in bounds. The penalty is accepted. What is thge sueceding spot and clock?

4/15 K's 25 Clock starts on the snap

CT1 Tue Aug 07, 2012 04:33pm

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Originally Posted by bcl1127 (Post 851319)
4/15 K's 25 Clock starts on the snap

Incorrect. Even though we had a legal kick, no new series was awarded.

FED 3-4-2.

cmathews Tue Aug 07, 2012 08:48pm

snap???
 
shouldn't it be on the ready in nfhs since B will not next snap it??

bcl1127 Tue Aug 07, 2012 09:40pm

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Originally Posted by cmathews (Post 851350)
shouldn't it be on the ready in nfhs since B will not next snap it??

What caused the clock to stop in this situation? That will tell you the answer

cmathews Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:51pm

yes exactly....
 
so tell me why it would be on the snap? there was no new series awarded to either team...the only reason it stopped was to award an apparent first down....that didn't happen...wind it up at least in nfhs

MD Longhorn Wed Aug 08, 2012 08:30am

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Originally Posted by bcl1127 (Post 851354)
What caused the clock to stop in this situation? That will tell you the answer

Yeah ... you have this backward. The logic in CT1's post is right but led to the wrong answer...

Quote:

Even though we had a legal kick, no new series was awarded.
So... Start on the ready.

CT1 Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:48pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 851370)
Yeah ... you have this backward. The logic in CT1's post is right but led to the wrong answer...
So... Start on the ready.

Fixed it. Reading is fundamental (but I would have done it right on the field!)

Thanks.

BktBallRef Wed Aug 08, 2012 07:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by surehands (Post 851306)
4th and 10 on k's 30 yd line. K97 punts as his team is flagged for illegal formation and the kick becomes dead in bounds. The penalty is accepted. What is thge sueceding spot and clock?

If the penalty is accepted, it will be 4th & 15 from K's 25. Clock starts on the RFP.

Of course, R can also decline the penalty.

Was there a particular piece that you were struggling with?


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