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BktBallRef Fri Jul 27, 2012 09:55pm

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Originally Posted by CT1 (Post 850165)
Saying only that "(t)he IHSA uses in all sports National Federation Rules" implies that they use NFHS with no modifications.

No it doesn't. It means they use NFHS and do not write their own rule books.

Of course, you already knew that.

waltjp Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:30pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 850187)
Are those modifications are state adopted rules (under NF Rulebook)?

Peace

FED Overtime procedure states that the ball is placed on the 10 yard line, and there is no provision in FED rules for a change to timing rules or game termination due to point differentials. If your state is starting from other than the 10 yard line for OT, or making special rules depending on point differential then your state has adopted modifications.

JRutledge Sat Jul 28, 2012 02:08am

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Originally Posted by waltjp (Post 850197)
FED Overtime procedure states that the ball is placed on the 10 yard line, and there is no provision in FED rules for a change to timing rules or game termination due to point differentials. If your state is starting from other than the 10 yard line for OT, or making special rules depending on point differential then your state has adopted modifications.

No, my state uses the same listed OT procedure that is in the rulebook.

I was only trying to make the point that the IHSA does not create their own rulebook. That was it. :rolleyes:

Peace

Adam Sat Jul 28, 2012 01:07pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 850205)
No, my state uses the same listed OT procedure that is in the rulebook.

I was only trying to make the point that the IHSA does not create their own rulebook. That was it. :rolleyes:

Peace

Even I knew what you meant.

jchamp Tue Jul 31, 2012 02:36pm

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Originally Posted by CT1 (Post 850095)
Here's the rule:

"The horizontal crossbar and the uprights above it shall be free from anv
decorative material except paint which is recommended to be either silver,
white or yellow in color. One wind directional streamer may be attached to
the top of each upright. Wind directional streamers shall be 4 inches in
width, 42 inches in length and either red, orange, or yellow in color."

Since the rule does not specify that only one color of paint be used, and does permit paint to be used as a decorative material (it is listed as the exception to decorative materials), and since the colors are listed as recommendations and not required colors (note the difference in verbiage compared to the wind streamers) then I would have to agree that barber poles, tiger stripes, checkerboards, or digital camouflage meet the requirements, if not the intent, of the rule. If people get carried away, I could see a change being made. But painting the goalposts any single team color shouldn't be an issue, as long as it can be easily seen against whatever background is present.

Robert Goodman Tue Jul 31, 2012 06:13pm

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Originally Posted by jchamp (Post 850626)
Since the rule does not specify that only one color of paint be used, and does permit paint to be used as a decorative material (it is listed as the exception to decorative materials), and since the colors are listed as recommendations and not required colors (note the difference in verbiage compared to the wind streamers) then I would have to agree that barber poles, tiger stripes, checkerboards, or digital camouflage meet the requirements, if not the intent, of the rule. If people get carried away, I could see a change being made. But painting the goalposts any single team color shouldn't be an issue, as long as it can be easily seen against whatever background is present.

The candy cane, etc. stuff was done I believe in the belief that it would make the posts stand out more, not as camouflage.

jchamp Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:13am

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Originally Posted by Robert Goodman (Post 850654)
The candy cane, etc. stuff was done I believe in the belief that it would make the posts stand out more, not as camouflage.

I don't doubt it. But that's also why we tend towards a single color now--we understand more about how the brain works now. Including that the more information that gets fed into a human brain, the less it is able to properly handle tasks that should be routine. That's why camouflage works, road signs are as simple as possible, and using the blink tag on the internet can get you attacked by layout nazis.

Texas Aggie Thu Aug 02, 2012 03:40pm

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Saying only that "(t)he IHSA uses in all sports National Federation Rules" implies that they use NFHS with no modifications.
Not only a false statement, but absurd. I don't know about football, but Federation has state association adoptions for several things in basketball -- coaches box and ball size for jr. high boys to name two. Nobody would ever care about the latter. If a state did, for example, allow a ball size difference for jr. high, are you seriously saying that the COMPLETE sentence, "(state) uses Federation rules for basketball" is untrue?


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