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sloth Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:16am

FS on field goal
 
Michigan vs. Va Tech - false start on winning kick All State Sugar Bowl 2012 - YouTube

I'm not a fan of either teams (but I do have the misfortune of working with some Michigan fans) but wonder if anyone for flag a kicker for a FS? I white hat on Friday nights and have flaged running backs for doing this, but would have a real hard time hitting a kicker for the same thing.

Thoughts from the hive?

APG Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:23pm

False Start or Illegal Motion on Kicker ? (video)

Rich Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:55pm

On a high school field, I would call this.

On a college field, I'd do whatever the supervisor wanted me to do here. Absent guidance, I'd call this.

Of course, there's a chance that the R simply missed this. I know I'm counting linemen and focusing on pre-snap movement there, as well and the kicker isn't in my periphery the same was a back is during a typical scrimmage down.

Robert Goodman Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by sloth (Post 810747)
Michigan vs. Va Tech - false start on winning kick All State Sugar Bowl 2012 - YouTube

I'm not a fan of either teams (but I do have the misfortune of working with some Michigan fans) but wonder if anyone for flag a kicker for a FS? I white hat on Friday nights and have flaged running backs for doing this, but would have a real hard time hitting a kicker for the same thing.

Looks like illegal motion, though it's not an advantage for the place kicker. However, if you have such a hard time, what would you think about a punter's starting forward before the snap? That looks just as much against the letter of the law, but also an unfair advantage.

CT1 Fri Jan 06, 2012 08:21am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 810788)
Of course, there's a chance that the R simply missed this. I know I'm counting linemen and focusing on pre-snap movement there, as well and the kicker isn't in my periphery the same was a back is during a typical scrimmage down.

Maybe you're not wide and/or deep enough.

Rich Fri Jan 06, 2012 02:02pm

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Originally Posted by CT1 (Post 811040)
Maybe you're not wide and/or deep enough.

No, I'm at the numbers or outside (depending on the placement of the ball) and usually 5 yards behind the kicker.

I'm saying my eyes may not be there at the exact second the FS happened.

It's likely, though, that I'd catch this in my periphery. It's clearly a FS, so I'm just speculating why it wasn't called. For those who say it doesn't affect anything, what if the defense hesitates its rush because of the actions of the kicker? I'd flag it every time.


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