QB fumble?
NFHS
QB A1 is attempting to pass the ball, but ends up scrambling. B2 dives at A1's feet and causes A1 to stumble forward. A1 stumbles a minimum of 3 full steps albeit off balance before placing the football on the ground in order to regain his balance. A1's hand slides off the football which he placed on the ground. The ball stays exactly where A1 put it. A1 then fall to the ground about 3 yards ahead of the ball, reaches back and tries to recover the ball. IS this a fumble? Or was it down when the ball touched the ground since the ground can't cause the fumble. How long is B2's contact a factor? Rulebook citation appreciated. |
This is a fumble.
Nothing occurred that would cause the ball to become dead. I really wish the "the ground can't cause a fumble myth" would die. |
The runner lost possession. By rule that's a fumble (2-18). As ITS points out, nothing happened that would make the ball dead (the ways the ball becomes dead are listed in 4-2-2).
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John Madden, all by himself, has made all of our lives more difficult. The ground CAN cause a fumble - the OP is the perfect example.
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We could amend it to: "the ground cannot cause a fumble once the runner is down," but that's not as catchy.
Also, it's kinda obvious and boring. |
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The ground most certainly can cause a fumble. And here's a play showing how. |
Spoons don't make Rosie O'Donnell fat, Rosie makes Rosie fat and the ground doesn't cause a fumble, the runner causes a fumble.
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+1 Both apply. :D |
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Leaving the ball on the ground is a fumble even if it's done deliberately. The fact that it's not a pass could make a difference in NCAA & NFL rules regarding their treatment of certain fumbles.
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