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Secondly 9.9.1 Situation B Comment talks about unfair acts. Third this play is totally outlawed at the NCAA level. If they fake tacking a knee the play is to be shut down. Peace |
NCAA Rule 4-1-3:
ARTICLE 3. A live ball becomes dead and an official shall sound his whistle or declare it dead: ... o. When a ball carrier simulates placing his knee on the ground. ... |
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Here's the Comment in it's entirety: COMMENT: Football has been and always will be a game of deception and trickery involving multiple shifts, unusual formations and creative plays. However, actions or verbiage designed to confuse the defense into believing there is problem and a snap isn’t imminent is beyond the scope of sportsmanship and is illegal. Quote:
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And most of all we have had this discussion many times before. No one is going to change the minds of others and I certainly am not trying to change other's minds. Quote:
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If the QB tells me he's taking a knee, I guess we'll just have an IW when he fakes doing so. Shrug.
Again, this is regional. If every crew in your area says something, you should too. If every crew in your area doesn't say anything, neither should you. |
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I hate resurrecting an old thread but
Last night 4th quarter A's up by 14 with 2 minutes to play and B is out of timeouts, 1st down near midfield...Victory formation...we decided this year in varsity games we're not saying anything unless our 35-point running clock rule is in effect in the 4th quarter and the game is 'practically' over. Snapper snaps the ball off the QB's knee and we ended up with a pile up under the center. B recovered and scored on the next play, onside kick nearly recovered, could have been a big moment if we had the defense 'relaxed.' |
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Again, I do not recall anyone saying for the "defense" to relax. I really wish sometimes people would read what the opposition is rather than assuming what someone's position is. Peace |
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This is horrible advice and I hope those following it do not see a kid hurt on a play like this. Injuries are virtually never your fault, but in this case, if someone gets hurt and you didn't tell everyone a knee was coming, in my view, that's on you. Regional or not, its stupid not to inform the players. The R walks up and says, "offense will take a knee; defense, do not hit anyone; offense, you are committed and you can't fake it." Sorry to sound arrogant, but this is the ONLY way to handle this. I wouldn't work for anyone that told me any different. |
Our game Friday night, offense failed to convert on fourth down and about 11 secs to go. All I said (and normally say) in these situations to their defense was "Be smart guys).
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As has been posted there are regional differences in how to handle this situation....but your way of handling it is the ONLY one that is 100% wrong. And it is not the officials fault if anyone gets hurt on a kneel down play. It is no different than any other down of the game. The ball becomes live and players run into each other and injuries happen. The only difference is that the offense is trying to end the down quickly therefore there isn't much time for an injury to occur. |
It's not over til the clock is on 0:00. Offense has a game to finish by blocking and the defense has a job to do by trying to make a play. They have every right to play hard until the ball is dead by rule. It is not my job to take away an oppurtunity by telling them to lay off. If anyone is afraid of someone getting hurt and expecting the defense to lay off, then why don't you just disregard the 25 sec. clock and just let the clock run off without having another snap? Either way you handle it, you are still taking the oppurtunity that team B has at getting to the ball. JMO.
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