Is this legal?

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by KWH

Originally posted by bluezebra

Not so fast there Bob...
We have a signal for "Illegal Procedure" (Signal 19 - Page 88), we have a penalty called "Illegal Procedure" (Penalty 11 - Page 77), and we have some acts that by default are called "Illegal Procedure". Examples would include Rule 7-2-1,2 & 3 as described on Page 47 but more importantly please see the PENALTY section on page 48 where these acts are specifically referered to as "Illegal Procedure" or Illegal Formation...

As for the play in question;
It is an UC charged to the head coach just as it is described in Casebook 9.5.1 Situation D.
It is a dead ball foul, the play should be blown dead prior to the snap, hence the ball should never be allowed to become live...

Question then: IF the snap should never get off, hopw can you be sure they are not just getting a player off the field? Even if I count 11, the QB has the right to miss count thinking there are 12, tell someone to get off. As he is running off, I can not be sure of what is going on until I see the snap and the player head up field. THEN, I know what was going on. It very well could be they wll run the play with 10 on.
NOW: Qb mis counts, tells RB to get off. Coach see this, as the RB is running off, yells at him to stay on, he then turns his direction and heads back to assume his position. Obviously, if 2 men in motion at time of snap, BUT how can you tell what is happening before the snap? If I am the white hat, I will see the snap, see the player head up field, STOP the play and asses the 2 penalities. 5 yd decline, mark off the UC 15 yards. Then talk to coach about the play.