Excessive celebration-Pinstripe Bowl
An absolute national disgrace.
The Big Ten should be embarrassed for nominating this crew knowing it would make such a horrendous decision. Its track record was obvious. |
I saw this play and the ensuing call. I'm a basketball guy but I'd like to hear what some football vets think about this one. From an outsider's perspective it seemed harsh at a critical juncture in the game. Definitely had an impact on the outcome.
I'll hang up and listen now...thanks for taking my call... |
Is this about the flag for the salute.
Some days I think the USA is falling like the Roman Empire fell. |
Yes. A player saluted to the crowd following a late TD. He was flagged for excessive celebration (I think). It was assesed on the two point convesion attempt (Ks St. HAD to go for two to tie with around a minute left). Following the penalty, the ball was placed around the 17 instead of the 2. 2 point conversion (to tie) failed. Ks. St. loses by 2.
What really puzzles me is how THIS was flagged when I see much sillier behavior following a score in college ball. I'm wondering if THIS particular act is a point of reference this year or something. Is it a conference thing? Spirit of the rule? |
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jimpiano,
Although, I did not see the call in question, I question your approach and opinion about the Big Ten Conference selections for this year's bowl season. The Big Ten has sent its best officials at every position to every one of its bowl game assignments including this year's BCS National Championship. Also, across the board from high school to the NFL post scoring play showboating has been a point of emphasis on officiating crews.....so whether you or other officials agree or disagree with the call.....the crew was at least watching what happened after the play |
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What is telling is that the exact same thing has happened twice in the UNC-UT game but no call has been made. Quote:
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Thanks for the heads up bktballref for the heads up.....I will do that
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It's tough to defend this one. I have no allegiance whatsoever to Kansas State. I just can't see how you make that call. It was a simple salute to his own fans. It lasted all of one second. The kid didn't even pause. Simple gestures like that happen in every football game, at every level. I'm up for hearing the opposing viewpoint, but I think it's pretty clear that this was an inappropriate flag.
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Tennessee players, both the receivers and the QB did it after all three TS passes, as well as one receiver who pulled the belt buckle gag. No flags for any of those, Big Ten crew as well. That's real hard for fans to understand, much less officials.
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Plays like this were on the NCAA training video this year that instruct officials to flag this. He could have just as easily walked to his team area but instead he put the officials in a position to make a judgement call. 2 officials flagged it independently of each other. What do you do when you have a rule that says it's a foul?
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Obviously, you call the foul. Because of the two flags, I figured that this crew had run into this situation earlier in the season or in training, and someone told them to penalize this action. Where it becomes frustrating is when very similar, or even bigger, actions in other games are not penalized. It isn't just frustrating for the fans of that team, but also for others who are quick to criticize, but slow to look up the actual rule. For the record, I am a K-State student and fan, but I really am a basketball official, so I am trying really hard to participate in the discussion but not be a fanboy. |
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