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JRutledge Wed Jul 21, 2010 03:11pm

New Testing Process
 
To make a long story short, my state just went to a new testing process. Because of not being a full member of the NF, our state produced their own test.

The football version of this testing came out yesterday. We have to answer only 25 questions, but instead of testing on whether you understand what a word means in an obscure rule, we actually answer plays and decide what the process is after a play is over. Also the test is multiple choice instead of true/false.

What do you think and what do states do that create their own test separate from the NF.

Peace

AUgrad2006 Wed Jul 21, 2010 06:20pm

In Georgia they give us the NFHS part 1 test. The state creates their own Mechanics test and Part 2 test (the Part 2 test is closed-book and proctered), each of which is 50 questions and T/F.

umpirebob71 Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:35pm

Wow, in Ohio, once we get our Class1 license, we never have to take another test.

mbyron Thu Jul 22, 2010 08:27am

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Originally Posted by umpirebob71 (Post 686240)
Wow, in Ohio, once we get our Class1 license, we never have to take another test.

In my experience, our officiating reflects this fact.

GoodwillRef Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:45am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 686198)
To make a long story short, my state just went to a new testing process. Because of not being a full member of the NF, our state produced their own test.

The football version of this testing came out yesterday. We have to answer only 25 questions, but instead of testing on whether you understand what a word means in an obscure rule, we actually answer plays and decide what the process is after a play is over. Also the test is multiple choice instead of true/false.

What do you think and what do states do that create their own test separate from the NF.

Peace

I like it.

JRutledge Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:50am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 686259)
In my experience, our officiating reflects this fact.

I have never been convinced that testing enhances rules knowledge. Most of my rules knowledge comes from discussions or association meetings (outside of my personal study of course) than any rules test has ever done. And the one reason I love our current testing at this time is the fact that they are not asking us things like the diameter of the football, but rather when you have a penalty what is the down and distance. I would think that officials in your area are not holding individuals accountable for knowing the rules like the crews I have been on do. We constantly talk rules and situations throughout the season or off season.

Peace

jemiller Thu Jul 22, 2010 04:13pm

Testing
 
In South Dakota they had an early multiple choice test that did nothing to advance training in my opinion. After the uproar ended, and the testing outfit that was used went belly up, we went back to the regular paper and pencil 100 T F open book and closed book test.

Now we do the same test, but on-line. Same for mechanics. We get the test down loaded so that we can review as a group, and this we had always done. Last year was our first year under that system, and despite a couple of glitches with the mechanics test, and instructions over how to do things the first time, I think it was great.

We have reduced the costs to the association and members. Not sure why our annual fees went up given all of these cost savings measures, but they were probably due to increase regardless. Now if we could only get a central assigning software solution to fly so that officiating crews don't have to pass each other going to do games in each others backyard we would be set.

30+ years of handling FB contracts is wearing thin...Jim

bisonlj Thu Jul 22, 2010 05:21pm

HS test - 100 T/F questions - decent study tool for those who spend time on their own to do it and review with crew members or association; worthless for those who just show up and write down the answers (I agree a T/F question about the diameter of the football or height of the goal post is not worthwhile).

College test - 100 questions that require you to provide who will next put the ball in play and where, down and distance, and rule references to support your answer - awesome study tool to dig into the rule book and better understand them; even better if you get together with a study group and review them. Even if you don't answer them in advance, you get a lot out of attending the study group and listening to officials talk.

hutsunuwu84 Fri Jul 23, 2010 02:34pm

Speak for yourself. I happen to think that the officiating in my association is spot on.

MD Longhorn Fri Jul 23, 2010 04:20pm

I think 25 questions is too little... but other than that I agree that a homemade test is going to be better than questions regarding what words can be on the football, what equipment can be carried by a non-player who is authorized to be on the sideline, what materials a chain should be made of, and trying to decipher a triple negative with missing commas and figure out what they meant.

tjones1 Sun Jul 25, 2010 03:47pm

It is my understanding that the question pool will expand every year until they get back to 100 questions.

While I agree that some of the NFHS exam was a word game, I did like it as a study tool to get me back into the rules book. I am going to attempt to get Part I from someone on here from here on out.

JRutledge Sun Jul 25, 2010 04:06pm

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Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 686597)
It is my understanding that the question pool will expand every year until they get back to 100 questions.

While I agree that some of the NFHS exam was a word game, I did like it as a study tool to get me back into the rules book. I am going to attempt to get Part I from someone on here from here on out.

I have a test for you if you need one. Let me know.

Peace

ODJ Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:02am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 686259)
In my experience, our officiating reflects this fact.

I thought you guys had standards.

Regards, LBJ

Canned Heat Sun Aug 08, 2010 03:58pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 686600)
I have a test for you if you need one. Let me know.

Peace

I have all of the NFHS tests going back to 1993...A good share of those with exams #1 and #2...I can help too.

Texas Aggie Sun Aug 08, 2010 09:00pm

Texas (NCAA rules) has a 50 question test (T/F) that must be passed (70% or higher) annually before working a varsity game. The test covers both rules and mechanics, but really only about 10% of the question reflect mechanics.

FTVMartin Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:06pm

MI has 90 questions in their bank. every year we get 30 random questions out of the 90. Not mandatory but used for playoff selection.


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