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Smoke Sun Sep 15, 2002 03:27pm

High School Rules:
Team A sets up for an extra point kick, the ball is hiked to the holder who gets up off his knee and attempts to throw a pass, the officail blows the play dead as the holders knee was down.
Correct Call???

BktBallRef Sun Sep 15, 2002 03:29pm

"...the ball is kicked to the holder who gets uo of his knee..."

Help us out with that part of your question.

Theisey Sun Sep 15, 2002 04:26pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Smoke
High School Rules:
Team A sets up for an extra point kick, the ball is hiked to the holder who gets up off his knee and attempts to throw a pass, the official blows the play dead as the holders knee was down.
Correct Call???

Was there a kicker in position to kick the ball? Unless something else when on, the answer is no. The ball remains alive when the holder rises.

Smoke Sun Sep 15, 2002 06:26pm

The Kicker was there, the holder just got up off his knees and was starting to move when the officials blew the play dead.

BktBallRef Sun Sep 15, 2002 06:47pm

Wow! How did you edit that post without getting the little edited note at the bottom? :)

As long as the holder gets up before he passes or hands off the ball, the play is legal and the holder is not down.

Mark Dexter Sun Sep 15, 2002 10:12pm

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
Wow! How did you edit that post without getting the little edited note at the bottom? :)
Two ways to do so, I believe.

(1) Edit it before anyone else reads it.
(2) Take a post you've edited, edit it again, and take out the "this has been edited . . ." warning.

-Chalk up 1 more posting for the ol' MD-

jfurdell Mon Sep 16, 2002 10:33am

Sounds like the play was blown dead prematurely. The holder can rise to become a runner/passer. He can also rise to catch an errant snap, kneel back down, and then rise again to become a runner/passer.

He can't, however, pass the ball backwards or forwards while his knee is still on the ground; that causes the ball to become dead immediately.

bluezebra Mon Sep 16, 2002 02:45pm

Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef
"...the ball is kicked to the holder who gets uo of his knee..."

Help us out with that part of your question.

He wrote "hiked", not "kicked".

Bob

mikesears Mon Sep 16, 2002 03:06pm

Quote:

Originally posted by bluezebra
Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef
"...the ball is kicked to the holder who gets uo of his knee..."

Help us out with that part of your question.

He wrote "hiked", not "kicked".

Bob

I think he edited it after BktBallRef read the post. ;)

BktBallRef Mon Sep 16, 2002 04:20pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef
Wow! How did you edit that post without getting the little edited note at the bottom? :)
Two ways to do so, I believe.

(1) Edit it before anyone else reads it.

Yes, but I had already read it.

Quote:

(2) Take a post you've edited, edit it again, and take out the "this has been edited . . ." warning.
Yeah but you'll still get an edit message each time you edit. :)

Quote:

Originally posted by bluezebra
Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef
"...the ball is kicked to the holder who gets uo of his knee..."

Help us out with that part of your question.

He wrote "hiked", not "kicked".

Ah, no, he didn't. I copied and pasted what he wrote. Then, he edited it after my reply.

Mark Dexter Mon Sep 16, 2002 05:59pm

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Originally posted by BktBallRef

Yeah but you'll still get an edit message each time you edit. :)

Not so sure about that one.

Here's my first edit.

And my second should clear everything.

[Edited by Mark Dexter on Sep 16th, 2002 at 09:42 PM]

Smoke Mon Sep 16, 2002 06:34pm

I am not sure how, I got it edited about half minute after I posted, Baskeball ref must have read it just before I edited it, so maybe the speed of my editing.

BktBallRef Mon Sep 16, 2002 09:01pm

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Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef

Yeah but you'll still get an edit message each time you edit. :)

Not so sure about that one.

Try it and see. The EDIT MESSAGE will always show up, after it shows up the first time.

Smoke, yeah, looking at the time frame, you must have edited it after I copied it but before I replied. I edit my posts all the time, just after posting them. Sometimes I don't spell worth a krap! :D

Oh well, it was just sorta freaky.

Mark Dexter Mon Sep 16, 2002 09:41pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef

Yeah but you'll still get an edit message each time you edit. :)

Not so sure about that one.

Here's my first edit.

[Edited by Mark Dexter on Sep 16th, 2002 at 09:41 PM]


(Just after I edited it the first time).

Mark Dexter Mon Sep 16, 2002 09:44pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef

Yeah but you'll still get an edit message each time you edit. :)

Not so sure about that one.

Here's my first edit.

[Edited by Mark Dexter on Sep 16th, 2002 at 09:41 PM]


(Just after I edited it the first time).

Well, cancel that thought.

I could have sworn I've done that before . . .

Anywhoo, it earns me 4 more posts. :)


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