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There was an interesting post on the NFHS discussion board that goes something like this:
4th and 10 from the B/R 25 yard line. A/K kicks a successful field goal but after the kick the referee notices the tee is more than 2" tall that is allowed by rule. What is the correct ruling? There appears to be no specific penalty for this foul. On the NFHS site we agreed that it is best to catch this before the play. Then you can prevent K from using the tee and being penalized. The worst thing that can happen at that point is that K may have to use a timeout or take a delay of game penalty. But assume instead that the kick is good and the tee is not discovered until after the play is over. How do you handle this? How do you penalize K? Some say take the points off the board, penalize coach K 15 yards for unsportsmanlike conduct, and give the ball to B 1st and 10 on their 35 yard line. Some say penalize K either 5 or 15 yards, live ball loose ball foul and have them rekick or replay the down with a legal tee. I know this is one of those once in a lifetime fouls but lets say some kicker tapes two of those black tees together to form a higher platform for the ball. It could happen. [Edited by Mike Simonds on Aug 1st, 2002 at 02:32 PM]
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Thu Aug 01, 2002, 10:32am
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Well, if you literally take the words from the penalty section of 9-9 "Unfair Acts" it pretty much says the Referee enforces and penalty he considers equitable, including the award of a score.
You can just about do what you want. I for one favor a UC against the coach at the succeeding spot and would be a quite a bit more observant on any future kicks in this game or any others. However, lets try another thought.. You could consider this scrimmage (place kick) to be illegal. Why? because it has to be controlled on a kicking tee (or the ground) by a teammate. OK, it was, but the tee was not a legal tee per rule 1 such and such and therefore is not really a kicking tee. Hey, it's an interpretation that could easily be used. You pull the points off, move 'em back 15 and replay. Maybe??
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Thu Aug 01, 2002, 11:26am
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Re: what?
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 Penalize K and have them re-kick or whatever they choose to do on 4th down, is what he meant.
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Thu Aug 01, 2002, 02:34pm
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Thanks guys! I edited my post. I don't know how I got my K's and R's mixed up. Keep the answers coming!
Mr. Theisy brings up a great conversation starter. Does using an illegal tee make the kick itself illegal? If it does, then the illegal kick is treated as a fumble and if the result of the play is a touchback (A/K forces the ball into B/R's end zone where it becomes dead in B's possession or goes out of bounds beyond the endline or across the sideline). Therefore B/R would be able to decline the penalty for the illegal kick and take the results of the play (touchback, B's ball 1st and 10 from their 20 yardline; assuming that the referee denies the score by K; I can see where this would be a can of worms). Or they could accept the penalty for an illegal kick: 15 yards from the spot of the foul and make A/K replay the down. In my 9 years (I still consider myself a rookie!) I've only seen an illegal kick twice; and both fouls occurred in the same game! Both were punt plays where the punter, standing in his own end zone, muffed the snap and then kicked the ball out of the end zone while it was on the ground to prevent B from recovering it for a touchdown. The referee did not call the foul on the first one; R recovered the ball in K's territory. We talked about it during half-time and all agreed it was an illegal kick and R would have the choice of accepting the results of the play or the penalty. Guess what, the same team committed the same foul in the second half and the defense accepted the penalty for a safety. Thanks for all the great answers. [Edited by Mike Simonds on Aug 1st, 2002 at 03:00 PM]
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