Fumbles on Extra Point Play in NFHS (Chicago story)

[kdf5]

A pass is just that - throwing a ball and a forward pass is thrown with its initial direction forward. There is nothing in NF to prevent an intentional fumble or specifies who can or can't recover it. If it's thrown forward illegally then it's incomplete when it hits the ground and if it was an IFP and flagged then the try is over and no replay.

[Forksref]

On a normal scrimmage play we had an illegal forward handoff. The QB was faking a handoff to the running back and this coach teaches that they jointly possess it for a while and the QB then decides if he keeps it or hands it off. Unfortunately, he didn't make his decision until they were both beyond the LOS and the runner was in front of the QB. The handoff was made and we flagged it for illegal handing. 5 yds and LOD enforced under the all-but-one principle.

I don't think I've ever called that or see that before.

[FTVMartin]

If you rule that it was fumbled on purpose you could use the planned loose-ball play rule that prevents an intentional fumble. THat would be hard to call if it comes out of a pile.

[JRutledge]

I saw the angle from the side view (I have connections) and it is much clearer that the ball was knocked out by the runner stretching out and "running" into a teammate in the scrum.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I saw the angle from the side view (I have connections) and it is much clearer that the ball was knocked out by the runner stretching out and "running" into a teammate in the scrum.

Peace

Which is why I said "it looks like" on the video. It's one angle, from the end zone.

I love watching our crew videos, but since we get one angle I have to consistently remind myself we're not seeing the whole picture.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Which is why I said "it looks like" on the video. It's one angle, from the end zone.

I love watching our crew videos, but since we get one angle I have to consistently remind myself we're not seeing the whole picture.

I agree and I feel the same way when I watch my crew work.

Peace

[chymechowder]

Question for the Fed guys:

how often, if ever, do you see a player try to take advantage of the rule by--WHOOPS!--fumbling forward late in the game on 4th down?

(also, is Ken Stabler on the NFHS rules committee or something?)

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by FTVMartin

If you rule that it was fumbled on purpose you could use the planned loose-ball play rule that prevents an intentional fumble. THat would be hard to call if it comes out of a pile.

That doesn't work. It only applies in the vicinity of the snapper.