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vcblue Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:03pm

SB verses Crespi
 
Has football seen an increase in refs due to the recession? In softball this has caused more experience umpires to receive less games. Is this happening in football? The only reason I ask is because of last nights game. It seemed like the visitor line ref only knew how to mark the ball and move the chains. It also seemed like the head ref did not have his best game. Calls are calls. Refs train themselves to see thing the ordinary would never see, but I have a big problem with one play from last night.

After SB scored off of an interception the player slipped on the track and hurt himself. SB's head coach plus others went to check him out. The Ref had SB play on and attempted the extra point. SB missed an the HC came back to the field wondering why the refs had the game continue when he was looking after a hurt player. Was this proper or should the ref what until the coach returns?

BTW Sorry I do not know the correct terms for your positions.

bisonlj Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:38pm

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Originally Posted by vcblue (Post 627458)
Has football seen an increase in refs due to the recession? In softball this has caused more experience umpires to receive less games. Is this happening in football? The only reason I ask is because of last nights game. It seemed like the visitor line ref only knew how to mark the ball and move the chains. It also seemed like the head ref did not have his best game. Calls are calls. Refs train themselves to see thing the ordinary would never see, but I have a big problem with one play from last night.

After SB scored off of an interception the player slipped on the track and hurt himself. SB's head coach plus others went to check him out. The Ref had SB play on and attempted the extra point. SB missed an the HC came back to the field wondering why the refs had the game continue when he was looking after a hurt player. Was this proper or should the ref what until the coach returns?

BTW Sorry I do not know the correct terms for your positions.

We would have waited until the player was returned to his bench but I don't know that any rules or guidebooks require that.

jaybird Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:53pm

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Originally Posted by bisonlj (Post 627469)
We would have waited until the player was returned to his bench...

Same here.

ajmc Sun Sep 27, 2009 09:42am

There's no "official" requirement for what you describe. The relevant point is where the injured player was being attended to, rather than who was attending to him. If he was in any way near enough to the field of play when he was being attended to be in danger, delaying the game until it was safe for him and his attendees would be appropriate.

However, if his proximity to the field did not pose any potential risk, there is no reason for delay. The fact that the Head Coach chose to stay with the injured player rather than focus on his team's try activities is totally irrelevant. That's why each team has trainers and medical personnel in attendance and why there are assistant coaches.

vcblue Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:53am

Thanks for the feedback. He did go down to the left of the end zone on the other side of the track. ajmc... this is HS not college or pro. Yes SB has trainers and doctors (probably better than most), but still this is HS and IMHO the HC should go.

ajmc Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:19am

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Originally Posted by vcblue (Post 627498)
Thanks for the feedback. He did go down to the left of the end zone on the other side of the track. ajmc... this is HS not college or pro. Yes SB has trainers and doctors (probably better than most), but still this is HS and IMHO the HC should go.

I'm not questioning his decision to stay with his injured player, but what does that have to do with delaying the game? If he wants to stay with the player, fine, I'm sure he has assistant coaches available to manage a Try, or at least he should have.

With trainors and medical personnel attending the injured player, there's really not much, other than emotional support, the HC can offer. If that's what he chooses to do, fine, I've got no problem with that whatsoever, but what does delaying the game have to do with that?

Unless there is some threat to player (or attendee) safety related to the proximity of where the player is being treated, like life, the game goes on.

umpirebob71 Sun Sep 27, 2009 06:47pm

"The visitor line ref?"

JugglingReferee Sun Sep 27, 2009 07:19pm

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Originally Posted by umpirebob71 (Post 627533)
"The visitor line ref?"

With one team on each sideline, the wing nearest the visitor's bench.

umpirebob71 Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:05pm

Clearly, but I've never heard it described as such.

vcblue Mon Sep 28, 2009 01:30am

as I said I don't know the correct terminology of FB officials.


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