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mikesears Thu Sep 17, 2009 01:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjohn (Post 625888)
provided such kick has
been touched by a receiver who was clearly beyond the neutral zone at the time
of touching.


Also, doesn't the LJ release in 5 man mechanics, leaving this call to the L & the U?

Punts and Scrimmage Kicks - 5 Man Mechanics - Football.Refs.Org


(H)L makes this call alone. U isn't moving up to line of scrimmage on a punt play.

bigjohn Thu Sep 17, 2009 01:52pm

Umpire

1. Count offensive team players, knowing the ineligibles.
2. Observe defensive man over center. (Avoid serious injury to the snapper.)
3. At the snap. step forward to the line of scrimmage.
4. Be alert for runs and passes; assist in covering short or blocked kicks.
5. Following the kick after the players go past your position, and on a signal from the Referee, turn and move towards the return areas, with particular attention to clips or illegal blocks or other fouls away from the ball.

NorCalRef12 Thu Sep 17, 2009 02:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjohn (Post 625956)
Umpire
3. At the snap. step forward to the line of scrimmage.

I'm not sure where you're getting these mechanics from, but why would the umpire want to limit his scope of vision of action at the line by stepping to the LOS at the snap? Stay back and watch for holds, illegal blocks, etc.

Once the players start clearing out, turn to watch the action of players going down to cover the punt.

bigjohn Thu Sep 17, 2009 07:16pm

Punts and Scrimmage Kicks - 5 Man Mechanics - Football.Refs.Org

bbcof83 Fri Sep 18, 2009 08:23am

Perhaps this is only a MN mechanic but on punt situations in 5 man we have the U in the backfield with the kicker opposite the R.

bigjohn Fri Sep 18, 2009 09:04am

who is watching roughing the snapper?

bossman72 Fri Sep 18, 2009 09:26am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjohn (Post 626094)
who is watching roughing the snapper?

...Probably the umpire

mikesears Fri Sep 18, 2009 09:32am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjohn (Post 626011)

From what I understand, Pennsylvania writes their own mechanics manual and this must be a PA mechanic. I am sure if I am wrong, somebody will correct me.

bbcof83 Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossman72 (Post 626112)
...Probably the umpire

Correct.

bossman72 Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesears (Post 626113)
From what I understand, Pennsylvania writes their own mechanics manual and this must be a PA mechanic. I am sure if I am wrong, somebody will correct me.

They only have that asinine 6 man manual that is home made. Everything else is NFHS I believe


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