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Old Thu Sep 10, 2009, 09:21pm
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I realize that Wikipedia is not a rules authority, but not being a football official it's the only reference I have. I bring this up because there have been several posts regarding the clock...

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The fair catch kick has unique rules which distinguish it from other free kicks, such as kickoffs. Most significantly, it is the only variant in which the kicking team can score a field goal. Also, onside kicks are not permitted; the ball cannot be recovered by the kicking team unless first touched by the receiving team. In high school football, if the kicking team can recover or catch the ball beyond the receiving team's free-kick line before the ball becomes dead, they take possession of the ball. The clock starts when the ball is kicked. If the kick is unsuccessful, the rules are similar to that of a normal missed field goal: the opposing team has the option of fielding the ball and attempting a runback, or of taking possession at the spot of the kick.[1] A successful fair catch kick is followed by a normal kick off.
Several things are not correct.

Also, onside kicks are not permitted; the ball cannot be recovered by the kicking team unless first touched by the receiving team. (Yes, in the NFL) In high school football, if the kicking team can recover or catch the ball beyond the receiving team's free-kick line before the ball becomes dead, they take possession of the ball. (K catching a free kick is interference; they would not take possession of the ball) The clock starts when the ball is kicked. (Yes, in the NFL, NFHS the clock starts when the ball is touched other than first touching by K) If the kick is unsuccessful, the rules are similar to that of a normal missed field goal: the opposing team has the option of fielding the ball and attempting a runback, or of taking possession at the spot of the kick(only in the NFL).[1] A successful fair catch kick is followed by a normal kick off.
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Old Thu Sep 10, 2009, 09:26pm
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Several things are not correct.

Also, onside kicks are not permitted; the ball cannot be recovered by the kicking team unless first touched by the receiving team. (Yes, in the NFL) In high school football, if the kicking team can recover or catch the ball beyond the receiving team's free-kick line before the ball becomes dead, they take possession of the ball. (K catching a free kick is interference; they would not take possession of the ball) The clock starts when the ball is kicked. (Yes, in the NFL, NFHS the clock starts when the ball is touched other than first touching by K) If the kick is unsuccessful, the rules are similar to that of a normal missed field goal: the opposing team has the option of fielding the ball and attempting a runback, or of taking possession at the spot of the kick(only in the NFL).[1] A successful fair catch kick is followed by a normal kick off.
OK fair enough. it wouldn't be the first time WP is wrong
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Old Thu Sep 10, 2009, 11:20pm
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Several things are not correct.

Also, onside kicks are not permitted; the ball cannot be recovered by the kicking team unless first touched by the receiving team. (Yes, in the NFL) In high school football, if the kicking team can recover or catch the ball beyond the receiving team's free-kick line before the ball becomes dead, they take possession of the ball. (K catching a free kick is interference; they would not take possession of the ball) The clock starts when the ball is kicked. (Yes, in the NFL, NFHS the clock starts when the ball is touched other than first touching by K) If the kick is unsuccessful, the rules are similar to that of a normal missed field goal: the opposing team has the option of fielding the ball and attempting a runback, or of taking possession at the spot of the kick(only in the NFL).[1] A successful fair catch kick is followed by a normal kick off.
The first sentence is wrong. Of course onsides kicks are permitted -- there's no difference between this and any other free kick.

I always chuckle when a team kicks off after a safety and someone yells that they're not allowed to use a tee. Another obscure NFL rule that someone thinks applies everywhere...
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Old Thu Sep 10, 2009, 11:42pm
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The first sentence is wrong. Of course onsides kicks are permitted -- there's no difference between this and any other free kick.

I always chuckle when a team kicks off after a safety and someone yells that they're not allowed to use a tee. Another obscure NFL rule that someone thinks applies everywhere...
It is talking about the NFL. In NFL rules the fair catch kick is treated the same as a scrimmage kick field goal.

Even better is when teams think they must punt after a safety. I had a game where there was a safety with about 2 minutes left. K is losing by a few points with no timeouts so of course they are going to place kick and kick it short. They came out and punted it deep.

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