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krampuppy Sat Sep 05, 2009 02:54pm

End of Iowa Game today
 
If you saw the end of the Iowa-UNI game today I have a question.

UNI has no time outs, The FG was attempted with ;06 to go on first down and was blocked. The ball never crosses the line of scrimmage and is recovered by the kicking team (UNI). The clock was stopped and UNI was awarded 2nd down and another FG attempt. (Which was blocked too) Why would the clock stop?

jdmara Sat Sep 05, 2009 03:29pm

This is why I don't officiate football lol I'm sticking with basketball and baseball. I would love to know the ruling and reasoning on this one. Glad you posted it before I got here because I wouldn't know how to describe it. It was the longest review I've ever experienced in a stadium. I think they read the ref the rule book on the headset ;)

-Josh

mikesears Sat Sep 05, 2009 03:58pm

Clock is stopped following any legal scrimmage kick and started on the snap. Doesn't matter if it is blocked or not. As long as they kicked it, the clocks stops following the play.

jdmara Sat Sep 05, 2009 04:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesears (Post 624040)
Clock is stopped following any legal scrimmage kick and started on the snap. Doesn't matter if it is blocked or not. As long as they kicked it, the clocks stops following the play.

Thanks Mike...Does the clock stop once the kick comes off the foot? after it crosses the line of scrimmage? I'm sorry if this is a "stupid" question.

-Josh

mikesears Sat Sep 05, 2009 05:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmara (Post 624042)
Thanks Mike...Does the clock stop once the kick comes off the foot? after it crosses the line of scrimmage? I'm sorry if this is a "stupid" question.

-Josh

Once the ball becomes dead. If it was blocked and somebody recovered it whlie laying on the ground that would kill the clock. I didn't see the game and haven't had a chance to see replays so I really don't know what happened. All I know is that UNI got two chances and didn't make either.

LDUB Sat Sep 05, 2009 05:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmara (Post 624042)
Thanks Mike...Does the clock stop once the kick comes off the foot? after it crosses the line of scrimmage? I'm sorry if this is a "stupid" question.

-Josh

It's a scrimmage kick. The clock stops when the ball becomes dead. It is the same as a punt.

jdmara Sat Sep 05, 2009 05:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesears (Post 624047)
Once the ball becomes dead. If it was blocked and somebody recovered it whlie laying on the ground that would kill the clock. I didn't see the game and haven't had a chance to see replays so I really don't know what happened. All I know is that UNI got two chances and didn't make either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LDUB (Post 624050)
It's a scrimmage kick. The clock stops when the ball becomes dead. It is the same as a punt.

Thanks Gentleman...I apologize for my ignorance of football. The ball was recovered after the first blocked FG by UNI (actually Iowa ran away from it)

-Josh

bisonlj Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:08pm

The call was definitely the right call. I was wondering about the clock status. There was 1 second left on the clock after the first kick (started with :07 not :06) so it was very close. Smart move by UNI. Too bad they couldn't convert.

verticalStripes Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:20pm

In Fed rules, the clock would start on the ready.

LDUB Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by verticalStripes (Post 624069)
In Fed rules, the clock would start on the ready.

Are you sure the clock would stop at all? Do you have a rule reference for that?

verticalStripes Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:27pm

Your right. Clock doesn't stop. It keeps running.

MJT Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:32pm

In NF, the clock would not have stopped at all on that play.

An Iowa defender could have picked it up, or fell on it, but got away. A UNI player picked it up and immediately was tackled. Then Iowa blocked the next FG also to secure the win.

movingthechains Sun Sep 06, 2009 02:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmara (Post 624051)
Thanks Gentleman...I apologize for my ignorance of football. The ball was recovered after the first blocked FG by UNI (actually Iowa ran away from it)

-Josh

Players are taught to run away from a blocked FG when it will deliver a win, we usually use Leon lett and his thanksgiving day blunder be a good example!!

Only bad things happen when big lineman try to pick up a loose ball.

Headlinesman or Line Judge in 4 and 5 man mechanics has the line of scrimmage and determines wether the kick crosses the line of scrimmage.

It looks like they got it right!!

jdmara Sun Sep 06, 2009 09:19am

I learned something this morning about this call. As some of you that watched the game live would have noticed a VERY long delay by the replay official reviewing the play to make sure the ball did not cross the LOS. Well, as I found out this morning from press box personnel, this was because the replay official was looking up the run and literally reading it to the ref on field :eek: There was a reason they got this ruling right.

It's funny because I thought it was an extended time to just be making sure the ball did not cross the LOS.

-Josh

Forksref Sun Sep 06, 2009 09:46am

Quote:

Originally Posted by verticalStripes (Post 624069)
In Fed rules, the clock would start on the ready.

I think the first FG attempt was on 1st down so the clock would not have stopped.


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