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Moshiner1345 Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:57pm
rules question offensive pass interference?
 
1st and 10 on the 40 going in. A84 voluntarily runs out of bounds at the 15 and returns to the field at the 10 where he catches the ball. He then runs to the 5 where he's tackled. What's the correct call in this situation. penalty/down and distance. NFHS and NCAA rules please. Thank you.

Mike L Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:33am
NFHS = Illegal Participation. Spot of the foul is where he returns. Basic spot is the previous spot. 15 yd penalty, A 1st & 25 at the B45.

NCAA = A84 lost his eligibility when he went OOB. He can't touch the ball unless first touched by B or an official. Loss of down at previous spot. A 2nd & 10 at the A40.

So neither one is OPI.

ppaltice Sat Aug 22, 2009 09:36am
NFHS: Spot of the foul is at B15 and basic spot is B40. So the penalty will make it 1st and 25 at A45 yardline.

w_sohl Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:04am
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Originally Posted by Mike L (Post 621682)
NFHS = Illegal Participation. Spot of the foul is where he returns. Basic spot is the previous spot. 15 yd penalty, A 1st & 25 at the B45.

NCAA = A84 lost his eligibility when he went OOB. He can't touch the ball unless first touched by B or an official. Loss of down at previous spot. A 2nd & 10 at the A40.

So neither one is OPI.
So in NCAA it is just treated as an incomplete pass?

mikesears Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:48am
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Originally Posted by w_sohl (Post 621716)
So in NCAA it is just treated as an incomplete pass?
It is a foul with no yardage penalty. If B would also foul during the down (like roughing the passer as an example), they would be treated as offsetting fouls.

JugglingReferee Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:20pm
Canadian Ruling
 
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Originally Posted by Moshiner1345 (Post 621676)
1st and 10 on the 40 going in. A84 voluntarily runs out of bounds at the 15 and returns to the field at the 10 where he catches the ball. He then runs to the 5 where he's tackled. What's the correct call in this situation. penalty/down and distance.
CANADIAN RULING:

Illegal participation.

10 yards from PLS, DR. Result: Team A 1D/20 @ B-50.

BktBallRef Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:52pm
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Originally Posted by mikesears (Post 621737)
It is a foul with no yardage penalty. If B would also foul during the down (like roughing the passer as an example), they would be treated as offsetting fouls.
Or a foul with no penalty! :)

w_sohl Sat Aug 22, 2009 04:21pm
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 621750)
Or a foul with no penalty! :)
I guess technically there is a penalty as they lose the down, however there is no yardage. I get it.

JugglingReferee Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:31am
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Originally Posted by w_sohl (Post 621778)
I guess technically there is a penalty as they lose the down, however there is no yardage. I get it.
Our book in the GWN lists a penalty for an incomplete pass. It is a loss of down, no yardage. :D

mbyron Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:34am
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 621873)
Our book in the GWN lists a penalty for an incomplete pass. It is a loss of down, no yardage. :D
Not all consequences are penalties. :rolleyes:


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