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Forksref Sat May 16, 2009 08:26am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike L (Post 602223)
This brings to mind one of my favorite penalty stories. Just an average play in an average game, the umpire drops a flag reasonably close to the B sideline. He reports to me he has clipping on B. The B coach, noticeably upset shouts out, "hey Bob, the defense can't clip". To which he replies, "you're right coach, the defense can't clip." The B coach looks really confused at this point, especially since Bob is continuing with the 15 yd walk-off. Once again we hear, "but Bob, the defense CAN'T clip!" To which Bob just replies, "you got it coach, the defense can't clip that's why there's a flag." The coach throws his hands up in frustration, Bob sets the ball down and I blow it ready while telling Bob who's just grinning at me "you're killing me, you know that right?"
That's as good as it gets! Kudos to Bob. I've got to remember that one.

KWH Sat May 16, 2009 10:23am
Wait a minute!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by waltjp (Post 602232)


The offense or kicking team can not be guilty of -

Illegal block below waist or on free-kicker or holder
Hey Walt-
When did they open up the rule to allow the offense and the kicking team to block below the waist? :)

waltjp Sat May 16, 2009 12:34pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by KWH (Post 602592)
Hey Walt-
When did they open up the rule to allow the offense and the kicking team to block below the waist? :)
My bad - should be:

The offense or kicking team can not be guilty of -

FROM:

Illegal block below waist or on free-kicker or holder

TO:

Illegal block below waist on the free-kicker or holder

KWH Sat May 16, 2009 12:46pm
Having fun with Walt
 
Well, er um OK then, but uh,
When was the last time you saw the holder on the recieving end of a block below the waist? :confused:

waltjp Sat May 16, 2009 01:14pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by KWH (Post 602603)
Well, er um OK then, but uh,
When was the last time you saw the holder on the recieving end of a block below the waist? :confused:
I'm just reporting what's written in the book. ;)

KWH Sat May 16, 2009 04:02pm
Yes and I hope you understand I am poking fun at the rule book as this is just another example where wording is not always absorbed the same by all the readers!

For example the current wording on page 97 of 2008 Rules Book (or 94 in 2009 Rules Book):
6. Illegal block below waist or on free-kicker or holder 9-3-2, 4 - 40

Could be re-placed with:
6. Illegal Block: a) Block below the waist, b) Illegal block of a free kicker, c) Illegal block of a free kick holder 9-3-2, 4 - 40

Sometimes just converting the topic into a 'list" rather than a long sentence with multiple "or" usage makes it easier to comprehend.

You may have noticed the committee has made some of these conversions in recent years, and my crystal ball predicts you will see even more in the 2009 Rules Book. :cool:

JugglingReferee Sat May 16, 2009 06:57pm
Canadian Answer
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Kincer (Post 602218)
What penalties can be called on:

Offense but not Defense
Defense but not Offense
Both
CANADIAN ANSWER:
  • Team A (putting the ball into play via snap or KO), but not Team B:
  • Illegal Procedure
  • Tandem Buck
  • Illegal Formation
  • Time Count
  • Illegal Forward Pass
  • Deliberate Grounding
  • Team B (not putting ball into play):
  • none, that I can recall


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